cam gears and other boltons... - Honda Prelude Forum

Si_g · 04-15-2004, 09:12 AM

well heres the deal, i got some money to spare, i already ordered a lot of ****, and well i was wondering what other types of boltons, there were out there. Cam gears is the only thing i could think of that i didnt have. I m tryin to stay in the boltons zone for now. Just so you know, i got pulleys, cai, headers, exhaust, msd, coil, wires ,safc, plugs and i think thats it for the boltons. As far as suspension, i got skunk2 coils, tokicos whites, front and rear strut bars, and rear sway bar, and camber kits all over. So i cant thing of anything else besides cam gears, and yea i do plan on gettin stage1 cams but that ll be the last thing i do before i get my head ported and polished. For those of you with cam gears, i hear that they are a ***** to tune, am i correct ? i dont really know how they work yet, but i ve been told that its easy to mess up and
damage the engine. I didnt plan on tunning them right now, but i thought they ll be good to have for now until i get the cams. If someone can think of any other boltons that i can get please let me know, and give me some inputs on those cam gears.

thx

g

4thGenReady2Go · 04-15-2004, 09:29 AM

I can understand why the consequences can be so bad, improperly advancing timing can wreak havoc on a lot of internals. Off cam gears for a sec, I remembe you telling me about a lot of things you've already done, but have your installed a lighter flywheel already?

Si_g · 04-15-2004, 12:59 PM

^^^ no i havent gotten to that yet, altho i m about to buy it in a few days. There is a shop down here that has the fidanza flywheel for 200, so i ll probly go pick it up next week. I m workin on a lot of things at the moment, i ll make a album once i m done with everything.

prelude2sin · 04-15-2004, 01:13 PM

if you are installing cam gears might as well install some camshafts from crower.

buffmanextreem · 04-15-2004, 04:10 PM

I wouldnt bother with the cam gears because you wont get any gains from them. Just save up and get the cams. From what ive read about the crower cams is that you dont need cam gears to get the full potential out of the cams.

You could also get a hi-flo cat.

Si_g · 04-15-2004, 05:14 PM

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Originally posted by buffmanextreem
I wouldnt bother with the cam gears because you wont get any gains from them. Just save up and get the cams. From what ive read about the crower cams is that you dont need cam gears to get the full potential out of the cams.

You could also get a hi-flo cat.

Oh yea, where did you read about the crower cams not needing the cam gears ? post a link so we can all read it. Has anyone besides AlexLude and that other guy ( i forgot his name) got those cams ? Has there been any dynosheets or something showing the potentials on a h23 ?

Oh and i already got a hiflow cat lol, thats why im lookin for another bolton b4 the cams that could be of any other help. I cant find any other bolt on that i can guy. As i mentionned earlier, i m gettin a lightweight flywheel in a week or so, and i already have a new clutch in there. I planned on gettin the cams in December so i can how the first few people like them, and see if they are really realiable.

Thx

buffmanextreem · 04-15-2004, 06:08 PM

it was on this board. do a search.

Si_g · 04-15-2004, 06:22 PM

I dont recall seein a thread with dynosheets or anyone that actually put them on and commented about the gains. I ve been followin this pretty close, so no need to tell me to do a search, cause i ve done it. If i missed it, then sorry but i dont need that kinda response. If u cant help or have no other comments, then keep it to yourself and dont respond. No offense intented.

buffmanextreem · 04-15-2004, 09:09 PM

I was sayin do a search because i knew it was on here. no need to raise a fit.

h23a1 crower stage 1 camshafts

there ya go

preludestud11 · 04-15-2004, 09:44 PM

Thiers no dyno

4thGenReady2Go · 04-15-2004, 10:12 PM

yes, no dyno indeed. Si_G, let me know the differences before and after your flywheel install, stock flywheel is supposed to weigh 20+ lbs, so I'd imagine if any one bolt on will make a big difference in power-transfer and throttle response, the Fidanza would. I'm considering this as my next mod because whatever I do from here out I want to be universal between the H23 and H22.

Si_g · 04-15-2004, 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by buffmanextreem
I was sayin do a search because i knew it was on here. no need to raise a fit.

h23a1 crower stage 1 camshafts

there ya go

No doubt man, like i said no offense inteded, just some people on here dont got nothin better to do but type that stuff.
anyway, yea i had seen that thread, i was more interested in actual results from the crower cams. A few people i have seen have skunk 2 and gude, so i was curious to get some feedback on the crowers so i can compare the responses a bit.

As far as that flywheel, i ll buy it soon, but wont be installin anytime soon, i m leavin the country in may 3rd, and i got mad finalz comin up, so i wont have time. I m leavin the day of my last final, and wont be back til the 20th or so. So when i get some time, i ll get it done.

irishpilot · 04-15-2004, 11:19 PM

cant wait for the album

It will be nice to see what gains we can get on the crower cams!

BTW: alexlude isn't going to install the cams so someone else is. it is in the NA forum for more info.

4thGenReady2Go · 04-16-2004, 07:51 AM

maybe after that install happens and dynos are shown, enough people will be interested where a group buy can get started, although I'm not entirely sure I want to do any H23-dedicated mods. Btw Si_G, where ya goin?

Si_g · 04-16-2004, 08:08 AM

I m goin to visit my family in Africa, in Senegal. Thats in West Africa for those who dont know.

4thGenReady2Go · 04-16-2004, 09:27 AM

no $hit, representing S. Africa right here, woot.

prelude2sin · 04-16-2004, 12:32 PM

si_g- bryan from crower told me that i do not need cam gears 'cause the camshaft have already been design to extract the most power it could. and yeah i bought the stage 1 camshafts. for more info you could call bryan from crower at 619-661-6477.

4thGenReady2Go · 04-16-2004, 12:59 PM

have you installed your stage 1's yet prelude2sin? If not, is there any chance you can dyno? Like everyone else, I too am curious about results, especially on the S1's.

prelude2sin · 04-16-2004, 01:28 PM

well im in school right now. so it will be a while 'till i install them. and yeah i will dyno the car but i am going to remove the balancer belt at the same time. therefore the numbers might be a bit higher. i expect 10whp from the two mods. but who knows, we will see.

Si_g · 04-16-2004, 01:30 PM

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Originally posted by prelude2sin
si_g- bryan from crower told me that i do not need cam gears 'cause the camshaft have already been design to extract the most power it could. and yeah i bought the stage 1 camshafts. for more info you could call bryan from crower at 619-661-6477.

interesting fact. So i dont have to get those cam gears afterall since im goin with S1s. I guess i can go ahead an order my 7 inch tV and indash dvd player hahaha.

oh and by the way, you should dyno your car b4 and after so you (and us) can see the results, differences, and if its worth it or not.. As far is the b4, u only need about 2 runs for base, unless want to tune.

let us know.