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Old 05-18-2005, 05:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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BURNING OIL just a head gasket or do i need motor? k series or h

i started my car up today to wash it for the 2nd time this week (i love my lude lol ) and when i get out i smell oil burning! what is the deal. the guy i receantly bought it from said that he never has any problem of oil besides that the head gasket leaks a little out of the top corner and he never has to add any. i bought it under a week ago and i already have this! i already bought a head gasket 4 it it just hasnt come in yet. what should i do!?! is it just that that is leaking or is the problem alot bigger than it seems?

If it is alot worse then should i just rebuild my 2.3 non-vtech or should i do a h22 motor swap or a k series motor swap. i donno which would be better and i am able to put 8500 into it right now. what should i do. would i even be able to afford a k series swap or would the h 22 be a better chouce anyway

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dude my lude drips oil like a mother, but idc i jsut add new i knew its the cam seals are bad its the h23 i think i might just buy jdm h22

and if you got 8500 **** jsut buy an engine from osaka for 1150 bolt you h23 tranny up to it buy some goodies like a turbo kit and ****
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i read all about turbos and i defiantly dont want an unreliable car with bad gas milage and i dont have 12 grand to set it up right for a turbo.
sorry cant just keep adding oil, shes my baby and shes gotta be perfect
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Old 05-18-2005, 10:06 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Uhm, any "fast" car burns oil. Specially any turbocharged fast car. I burn a ton of oil between the turbo itself eating some and whats slipping past the rings with the intentional overgap.

Ask any of the FC owners. You check the oil at _every_ fuel stop. Its not unheard of to burn a qt between fueling.
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where do you smell it from? top or bottom? valve covers gaskets are infamous on h's and also the oil pan gaskets are problems sometimes.

i wouldn't worry so much about your head gasket unless you see blue smoke or notice oil in your coolant reservoir. a compression check wouldn't hurt though just to give you a sign of how things are looking.
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Old 05-19-2005, 12:13 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I don't burn oil and my motor is fullybuilt w/ turbo... just depends if the motor build was done right or not. You also have to remember, 92-96 preludes are not "NEW" cars anymore. 4th gen ludes are anywhere from 9-13yrs old. Considering the age and milage most people have on their cars, its not un-common to hear that your car would burn/consume oil esp on the original motor. Also, h-series naturally consume oil, so it is always a good idea to check the level everyweek.
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thats crapy i dont think that i should burn oil at all. if it is because of the engine being old then i will replace the engine. simple as that. i got to have this car nice. it doesnt need to look good i jjust want it to run perfect. Will the the nissian skyline (20det i think) 6 cylinder or 4 cylinder?

I smell it from the top.
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If you've got $8500 available now, I'd get a JDM h22 and get it rebuilt from the bottom up; maybe even type s pistons and head, or JUN work...
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thats crapy i dont think that i should burn oil at all. if it is because of the engine being old then i will replace the engine. simple as that. i got to have this car nice. it doesnt need to look good i jjust want it to run perfect. Will the the nissian skyline (20det i think) 6 cylinder or 4 cylinder?

I smell it from the top.
welcome to the world of vtec. vtec is an oil based system dealing with engines spinning at extremely high RPMs and at extreme temperatures. if you are concerned that you have a blown motor then do a compression check.

do you see any oil on the top of the engine? maybe around the screws of the valve cover?
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welcome to the world of vtec. vtec is an oil based system dealing with engines spinning at extremely high RPMs and at extreme temperatures. if you are concerned that you have a blown motor then do a compression check.

do you see any oil on the top of the engine? maybe around the screws of the valve cover?
uhhhhh.... he dosn't have a VTEC-equipped engine.

Dude, you sound like you are trying to solve this problem by throwing money at it without doing any real research at all. Stop for a second and try to locate the exact source of disappearing oil. The valve cover gaskets and cam seals on Honda engines are notorious for leaking, so that would be the first place to look.
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uhhhhh.... he dosn't have a VTEC-equipped engine.

Dude, you sound like you are trying to solve this problem by throwing money at it without doing any real research at all. Stop for a second and try to locate the exact source of disappearing oil. The valve cover gaskets and cam seals on Honda engines are notorious for leaking, so that would be the first place to look.
i didn't realize he had an si...
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uhhhhh.... he dosn't have a VTEC-equipped engine.

Dude, you sound like you are trying to solve this problem by throwing money at it without doing any real research at all. Stop for a second and try to locate the exact source of disappearing oil. The valve cover gaskets and cam seals on Honda engines are notorious for leaking, so that would be the first place to look.
it is leaking in the top left of the motor where the head bolts onto the block. looks to me like a gasket but i didnt know 4 sure. i can see where it is seeping out. i knew where it was coming from i just thought that i had already said that and figured id ask if i might have to find new problems on it.
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that would be the valve cover gasket... the head gasket isnt' going to leak oil...

and since you're new... i'll be nice and let you know that its VTEC... not vtech

first off, you should learn what vtec stands for (judging that you can't even spell vtec correctly, you don't know what it is). next you should start doing searches to find out the problem, BEFORE you start throwing money at it, like Tim said. then if you still can't find the problem by searching... then ask a question.

and lastly... stop worring about putting a damn Nissan motor in... it wont fit without $10k+ in customization.
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Hmm, at 160,000 miles I burn about 1 quart between 2500 mile oil changes. This is in a 93 H23.
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Preludes burn oil. Deal with it.
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Why are u soo concerned about putting a different motor into a prelude? Like mentioned before h-series are known to consume oil - PERIOD. You should check your oil leves like i said above to make sure u dont go low. That is just plain and simple maintainence that all car owners do. OLD cars consume/burn oil. It shouldn't be a HUGE surprise. Buy a new car if you do not want to deal with these issues. Also, the skyline engine code is not 20det. It would be RB20DET which is found in the R32 skylines. And your question to the K-series motor, has been covered in another topic. If you would spend the time to do a seach you would have found it since its only about 1week old.
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Preludes burn oil. Deal with it.

i was thinking the same thing. all cars burn oil, whether you notice it or not. some people's cars on here burn a quart or two between changed. mine....about 1 quart every 2000 miles if i am lucky. if you drive it hard, it will burn oil and will be noticeable. i have 160,000 on my motor and i would even think of it running bad. if you dont want your car to burn oil, sell it. that would be the easiest fix to your problem. k series burns oil too. so does the skyline (RB26DETT)
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