Ok i found this guy selling his calipers from his 93 vtec lude for $100. i figured this was an ok deal and i have si brakes so i wanna upgrade. my mech. told me not to put them on without rebuilding them. do i need to do this? also i plan on getting the brembo slotted vtec rotors, goodrich lines, and nissan/aem pads. what do yall think? should i do this? anything else i will need?
If the boots for the pistons are worn or cracked, then you should rebuild the calipers. For $100 you could get a set of Legend 2 piston calipers, which would give better braking. Then upgrade your Si Master Cylinder to a VTEC one. Throw on some new pads, rotors, and SS lines and your set.
well the guy said there are no cracks or anything. just said he is selling because he got better brake upgrade or something. im not trying to really massively increase braking i just want the bigger rotors and a lil more stopping power. i might be able to get him to go down a lil on the price. i dunno about that master cylinder..
The master cylinder is something that alot of people dont add into the equation, but it is a good idea. Seeing as the master cylinder in your Si was only meant to fill those small single piston calipers. It wont be able to fill the larger VTEC or Legend calipers as well as a larger master cylinder would.
ok well anyways i dont think im getting the vtec rotors. i found a place were i can get a set of legend calipers for 206 shipped and they are already rebuilt.
Originally posted by slo mo I don't think it's necessary to replace the MC. I know people who have done the swap and they have had no problems using the stock prelude MC.
Its not that it is neccesary to replace the MC, its that if you do upgrade to a better MC your braking will be better.
yeah, that's what i am thinking too, especially for those who swap to NSX calipers and rotors, aren't you supposed to upgrade the MC too? how about like AEM big rotor kits?
Originally posted by vile10 yeah, that's what i am thinking too, especially for those who swap to NSX calipers and rotors, aren't you supposed to upgrade the MC too? how about like AEM big rotor kits?
AEM Rotor kits use the stock caliper, so unless you upgrade the calipers as well... you dont need to get a new MC.
Upgrade calipers will do jack squat unless you upgrade the cylinder too. The cylinder is what applies the torque to the calipers pistons. A MC for a single piston(or 4 single pistons)is not going to necessarily work as good as the design intended. I for one feel that the stock calipers are WAAAAAAAY UNDERRATED! Yes they are a single piston. BUt they brake grip(torque) is exception and is from my own experience better than many twin piston calipers that use larger brake pads. I personally would get some new blanks, good pads and put in some synth fluid in. You will be set. Next step would be to upgrade to SS lines. Or you can go all out(in my book as 2 and 4 piston calipers work like crap with our MC's)and upgrade to a larger rotor. I did, went with AEM's O.E. big brake kit. Rotors are about 70% larger. Cooling increases and so does torque ability of setup.
Originally posted by Ritteri Upgrade calipers will do jack squat unless you upgrade the cylinder too. The cylinder is what applies the torque to the calipers pistons. A MC for a single piston(or 4 single pistons)is not going to necessarily work as good as the design intended. I for one feel that the stock calipers are WAAAAAAAY UNDERRATED! Yes they are a single piston. BUt they brake grip(torque) is exception and is from my own experience better than many twin piston calipers that use larger brake pads. I personally would get some new blanks, good pads and put in some synth fluid in. You will be set. Next step would be to upgrade to SS lines. Or you can go all out(in my book as 2 and 4 piston calipers work like crap with our MC's)and upgrade to a larger rotor. I did, went with AEM's O.E. big brake kit. Rotors are about 70% larger. Cooling increases and so does torque ability of setup.
Dude, TRUST ME, you don't need to upgrade the MC for the legend swap. I've seen it with my own eyes and they work perfectly fine with the stock MC of an S prelude. When doing the legend swap you do infact have the option to use larger VTEC rotors. If you want more information about the swap go to this link
Your AEM rotors are 70% larger than stock. wow, I have to wipe the dust off my calculator to figure this out... 11.1" + 70% = 18.87" rotors. you best be rollin on 24" dubs
Since when is going "all out" increasing rotors size? If you want to go all out purchase a big brake kit like wilwood or baer.
The legend caliper swap is a cheap and effective braking upgrade for our preludes. They allow for use of factory 15" rims while still upgrading our braking power in a cost effective manner.
And one last question: What is the torque ability of a brake setup and how are you increasing the brake torque???
Originally posted by Ritteri Upgrade calipers will do jack squat unless you upgrade the cylinder too. The cylinder is what applies the torque to the calipers pistons. A MC for a single piston(or 4 single pistons)is not going to necessarily work as good as the design intended. I for one feel that the stock calipers are WAAAAAAAY UNDERRATED! Yes they are a single piston. BUt they brake grip(torque) is exception and is from my own experience better than many twin piston calipers that use larger brake pads. I personally would get some new blanks, good pads and put in some synth fluid in. You will be set. Next step would be to upgrade to SS lines. Or you can go all out(in my book as 2 and 4 piston calipers work like crap with our MC's)and upgrade to a larger rotor. I did, went with AEM's O.E. big brake kit. Rotors are about 70% larger. Cooling increases and so does torque ability of setup.
sorry this is off topic but, just to let you know, that link in your sig is spelled wrong. also, do you have any kind of PO.com member discount?
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