Brake Problem please help - Honda Prelude Forum - Prelude Online.com
Honda Prelude Forum Honda Prelude Forum Header Right
» Auto Insurance
» Featured Product
» Wheel & Tire Center

» Log in
User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!
Go Back   Honda Prelude Forum - Prelude Online.com > Honda Prelude Discussion > Fourth Gen Prelude Discussion
Register Home Forum Active Topics Photo Gallery Mark Forums Read Advertise

PreludeOnline.com is the premier Honda Prelude Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 11-17-2002, 12:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
Supporting Member
200k H22 Still Riding
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Nor CAL
Posts: 96
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Brake Problem please help

Today I changed my stock rotors with brembo x-drilled/slotted. I changed my stock one because it was shake when everytime i brake... but today when i changed the rotors and put everything back and tested it out... it turn out to be shaking worst then b4 but this time it feel like my ABS was on but there wasnt no ABS Light on, was it because i broke too hard to cause my master cylinder break or can it be something out... it cant be the rotors because it shake like crazy when i brake but driving normal its drive smooth... plz help
__________________
DoHCxVTeKz is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 11-17-2002, 12:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
ANGER IS A GIFT!
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Wichita, KS
Posts: 3,963
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I really think your rotors are warped.

Did you get the Brembos new?

Are you sure you put them on the correct side?

Did you replace your pads as well?

Does your foot pedal go down any further than before?
__________________

QWITCHERBICHEN
MR.CLIFFORD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2002, 12:21 AM   #3 (permalink)
Putt Putt...Vroom Vroom!
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Japan
Posts: 2,822
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
did you break them in correctly? maybe its the pads?
DudewithaLude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2002, 02:42 AM   #4 (permalink)
Supporting Member
200k H22 Still Riding
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Nor CAL
Posts: 96
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
i just put them on and everything is brand new rotors and pads. i think im pretty sure me and my friend put it in right and also the pad are factory from honda. we also double checked again everything look fine and we also bleeded the brake fluid.
DoHCxVTeKz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2002, 08:29 AM   #5 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Kennewick, WA
Posts: 469
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Did you use a torque wench to tighten the lug nuts?
__________________
Brian
bk94si is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2002, 10:25 AM   #6 (permalink)
Supporting Member
200k H22 Still Riding
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Nor CAL
Posts: 96
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
yep
DoHCxVTeKz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2002, 10:30 AM   #7 (permalink)
ANGER IS A GIFT!
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Wichita, KS
Posts: 3,963
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
did you go right out and pound on the brakes or have you given it a little break in period?? I just replaced my rotors from the same vibration problem with Brembo slotted rotors. I haven't had any problems at all. I'm thinking maybe somewhere in the slotted and drilled process they messed up your rotors. Where did you buy the rotors from?
__________________

QWITCHERBICHEN
MR.CLIFFORD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2002, 02:10 PM   #8 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: NY
Posts: 939
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I had and still have the same problem. I bought my rotors from 'raceconcepts' from groupbuy. I had to send the first set back and he sent me another one, but it didn't help. Vibrations weren't as bad but not something that's associated with new rotors.
I bought a set of Power Slot rotors from manhonda.com for my mom's 98 accord and they are smooth as butter when breaking.

Sometimes when the ball joints are worn they will also cause vibrations. If you don't know how to check them I would suggest taking the car to a reputable shop or honda dealer and have them check it.
vtecprelude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2002, 06:36 PM   #9 (permalink)
Supporting Member
200k H22 Still Riding
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Nor CAL
Posts: 96
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
i pound it down when i first took it out for a test drive
__________________
DoHCxVTeKz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2002, 06:45 PM   #10 (permalink)
Supporting Member
200k H22 Still Riding
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Nor CAL
Posts: 96
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
i brought it from raceconcept also on ebay
__________________
DoHCxVTeKz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2002, 07:19 PM   #11 (permalink)
Supporting Member
PreludeOnline Premium Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: The big Sand box in the Middle east(Iraq, Afghanistan).
Posts: 1,166
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Well, one thing that can happen when buying other than OEM brake rotors, is that they are slightly warped from the manufacturing process. Most reputable places will recommend turning the new rotors, and removing about 0.1" from the surface to make the rotors true. honda recommends that the rotors be turned on the car. If you check around, you might find a place that will turn a crossdrilled/slotted rotor. I know that our Carquest here in town will turn them for a slightly higher fee. Crossdrilled/Slotted rotors really put a beating on the Bits for the lathe, thus the higher fee. Also your ball joints, tie rod ends, and motor mounts can lead to excess vibration as well. You really shouldn't be out pounding on a new set of brakes either. They will require a break in period of about 200-1000 miles depending on driving style.
__________________
WARNING: The Surgeon General has determined that motorcycle riding will cause swelling of the testicles, shrinkage of the brain and severe trauma to the ego.
Dr. James is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2002, 03:17 PM   #12 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: NY
Posts: 939
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
My previous rotors were cross-drilled but I've been to so many shops and no one would want to cut them. They say the cutting bits cost more than the rotors once they are done cutting a rotor. As soon as a the bit catches the hole or slotted part of the rotor it snaps. I'm actually suprised someone else is able to get this done.
vtecprelude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2002, 04:31 PM   #13 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Tyler,tx
Posts: 746
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
how much do new ball joints cost?
LudedudeSi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2002, 08:01 PM   #14 (permalink)
Supporting Member
PreludeOnline Premium Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: The big Sand box in the Middle east(Iraq, Afghanistan).
Posts: 1,166
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
The ball joints can vary in price. You can get the front and rear lower ball joints for about 25-30 a piece. the front and rear uppers are MUCH more. Honda in all their brillience decided to make the Ball joints un-replaceable (is that a word??) You will have to replace the entire upper control arm assembly. The new ones from Honda include a new ball joint, and they can run from about 130-180 bucks each depending on there you get them. The funny thing is, you can press the original ball joint out of the upper control arm, but no one makes a replacemnet, so Honda kind of has a monoploy on this one.
__________________
WARNING: The Surgeon General has determined that motorcycle riding will cause swelling of the testicles, shrinkage of the brain and severe trauma to the ego.
Dr. James is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2002, 01:23 AM   #15 (permalink)
Supporting Member
PreludeOnline Premium Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: homeless
Posts: 1,811
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
i dont' think you can turn the x-drilled and slotted rotors though, can you? shouldn't you give it a period of time of breaking in?
__________________
vile10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2002, 02:42 AM   #16 (permalink)
Supporting Member
200k H22 Still Riding
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Nor CAL
Posts: 96
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
i did what Dr. James say turn it... and it work fine now... thanks alot for the help Dr. J.
__________________
DoHCxVTeKz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2002, 09:59 AM   #17 (permalink)
Supporting Member
PreludeOnline Premium Member
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Caraquet/Moncton, NB, Canada
Posts: 1,331
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally posted by Dr. James
The ball joints can vary in price. You can get the front and rear lower ball joints for about 25-30 a piece. the front and rear uppers are MUCH more. Honda in all their brillience decided to make the Ball joints un-replaceable (is that a word??) You will have to replace the entire upper control arm assembly. The new ones from Honda include a new ball joint, and they can run from about 130-180 bucks each depending on there you get them. The funny thing is, you can press the original ball joint out of the upper control arm, but no one makes a replacemnet, so Honda kind of has a monoploy on this one.
25-30$ for a lower ball joint? Honda quoted me 320$CDN for one side in front, it was the complete knuckle though... Can you get just the ball joint?
Forbidden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2002, 01:03 PM   #18 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: NY
Posts: 939
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I have a set of new upper controls arms with joints. They have about 5k mil. on them currently on my car, I'll be willing to sell them.
vtecprelude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2002, 08:39 PM   #19 (permalink)
Supporting Member
PreludeOnline Premium Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: The big Sand box in the Middle east(Iraq, Afghanistan).
Posts: 1,166
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally posted by Forbidden


25-30$ for a lower ball joint? Honda quoted me 320$CDN for one side in front, it was the complete knuckle though... Can you get just the ball joint?
You can get just the Lower Ball joint by itself, from either honda or most parts stores. The upper is the one that requires you by the A arm as well.
__________________
WARNING: The Surgeon General has determined that motorcycle riding will cause swelling of the testicles, shrinkage of the brain and severe trauma to the ego.
Dr. James is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Honda Prelude Forum - Prelude Online.com > Honda Prelude Discussion > Fourth Gen Prelude Discussion


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:18 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.3.2