blue top h22? - Honda Prelude Forum

hdeucedeuce · 08-08-2009, 05:53 PM

so im about to buy a jdm blue top h22 is it as reliable as the regular h22 and if i were to buy an F20B would it bolt right up to my h22 trans? probly not?

Kronn 98SH · 08-09-2009, 04:39 AM

Ya know, I'm not familiar with any blue top H22s from Japan. In fact, the only H-Series engine that I know of with a blue top is the H23A VTEC from the Accord Euro R. However, the tranny from an H22 should bolt right up to an F20B without any problems or modifications.

prepreludesh · 08-09-2009, 06:17 AM

There is no such thing as an H23 VTEC unless somebody has Frankenstein'ed it.

Yes, the blue top is "just as reliable." And as Kronn said, it did come in the Euro-R Accord

minilogoguy18 · 08-09-2009, 09:43 AM

^Japans H23a was the Accord SiR Wagon vtec and it had a blue valve cover. Accord Euro R came with 220hp red h22a, I think you got them all mixed up prepreludesh.

A friend bought a 5th gen with a h22a with a blue valve cover but I'm sure it was just from the F20b.

prepreludesh · 08-09-2009, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by minilogoguy18

^Japans H23a was the Accord SiR Wagon vtec and it had a blue valve cover. Accord Euro R came with 220hp red h22a, I think you got them all mixed up prepreludesh.

A friend bought a 5th gen with a h22a with a blue valve cover but I'm sure it was just from the F20b.

No, there was no H23a VTEC. Prove it. As for the Accord Euro R with a red top, what about the Euro R in Europe, I think that's where the blue top came from

h22vtecgirl · 08-09-2009, 12:39 PM

there was an h23a vtec it was the EURO accord wagons engine back in the day. my mechanic told me all this. there is no usdm h23a vtec. but there is a euro. and its a red top.

prepreludesh · 08-09-2009, 01:07 PM

I still don't believe it. Mechanics have said alot of f-ed up stuff, even reliable, trustworthy ones. I witnessed a reputable Honda ECU tuner once tell a girl that the higher octane meant that the gasoline actually ignited faster than lower octane gasoline. Not that that has anything to do with anything, but I was like "and this guy is supposed to be good!"

People get mixed up sometimes but the truth is, I've never seen a factory H23a VTEC, but it is widely known that people put the H22 head on the H23 block to achieve that result. So it's still not proof enough.

h22vtecgirl · 08-09-2009, 01:26 PM

ok i was wrong about which model accord it was. but here is the proof man lol. Honda H engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that is the link to the page where it talks about the h23a vtec. lol

prepreludesh · 08-09-2009, 01:37 PM

I see where you read it from... Wikipedia... the place where anybody can post anything about anything... the place that schools and colleges won't let you cite for references due to the high number of faults.

I would like to see a pamphlet or a brochure or a build-up detailing this engine. Even somebody from overseas with this car in their possession and with some sort of other proof... Just something other than wikipedia. Even Kronn didn't like Wikipedia's engine reference guide so he made his own spreadsheet in another thread on here and people applauded him on it.

I just don't accept things at face value like that?

petern101 · 08-09-2009, 02:43 PM

^everyone is right.

Normally I would get onto you but you've proven somewhat of a competent member

I'm just letting you know now there is a h23 vtec edm motor. Might as well stop while you're ahead.

blutop · 08-09-2009, 05:10 PM

I am putting a JDM H23A Blutop in my 99 Lude as we speak, they do exist and can be bought. They come from the JDM SiR , I believe this motor came from an Accord based wagon. You can google SiR and it will lead you to valid info.

h22vtecgirl · 08-09-2009, 05:19 PM

well i understand wikipedia is not the best reference but its the only one i've got lol.

hdeucedeuce · 08-09-2009, 05:51 PM

ok well then should i get tha f20b blue top or should i get the h22 blue tob both of them are dual over head cam. i kno the f20 has more horse power but the h22 has more torque the f22 rev limiter goes a whole grand higher but my mechanic says he would stay with the h22 i jus need a few more opinions

TruNinja619 · 08-09-2009, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by prepreludesh

I still don't believe it. Mechanics have said alot of f-ed up stuff, even reliable, trustworthy ones. I witnessed a reputable Honda ECU tuner once tell a girl that the higher octane meant that the gasoline actually ignited faster than lower octane gasoline. Not that that has anything to do with anything, but I was like "and this guy is supposed to be good!"

People get mixed up sometimes but the truth is, I've never seen a factory H23a VTEC, but it is widely known that people put the H22 head on the H23 block to achieve that result. So it's still not proof enough.

http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc...age&item=30031

search much?

Kronn 98SH · 08-10-2009, 02:34 AM

This is all my fault. I had a 5am brainfart, but considering all the research I do, I shouldn't be forgiven. The H23A blue top is from the 1998-2002 Accord SiR Wagon. It is a JDM motor with VTEC. It is real. It exists.

There is also an H23A black top in the 1992-1996 Ascot Innova 2.3Si-Z. It is a JDM motor without VTEC. It is real. It exists.

Both vehicles were only available with an automatic transmission.

For more information, read this:
INFO: H Series Engines

NZ Lude · 08-10-2009, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by petern101

^everyone is right.

Normally I would get onto you but you've proven somewhat of a competent member

I'm just letting you know now there is a h23 vtec edm motor. Might as well stop while you're ahead.

where are you going in life man?

prepreludesh · 08-10-2009, 06:18 AM

Alright, well since everyone has so much information on this motor now, I suppose I'll believe you all.

But why wasn't the H23A "Blue Top" given another moniker after the letter "A"? This is common for a Honda motor that shares the same basic traits, but changes them even just a little bit. You'd think with a change as significant as putting VTEC into an H23 motor, that they would at least make a special designation like "H23A2" or "H23Z" or something like that. It's still baffling in a way, because shouldn't this be the pinnacle of H series engines and highly regarded among our community? You know us Honda-heads take any increase in displacement we can! .1L is a big deal

The Oreo · 08-10-2009, 07:08 AM

I always wondered what engine code was for the SiR Euro R motor with LSD..

Is the JDM SiR motor the same engine code as the SiR Euro R motor?

Man.. Alot of R's in that sentence.

It is to be my next motor.

If thats the motor you posted a pic of, we have TONS of them here in jersey in warehouses..
Ready to pull a premium on us before we win race wars...

prepreludesh · 08-10-2009, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by The Oreo

Ready to pull a premium on us before we win race wars...

hahaha, a couple of SR20's should pull a premium a week before race wars

h22vtecgirl · 08-10-2009, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by hdeucedeuce

ok well then should i get tha f20b blue top or should i get the h22 blue tob both of them are dual over head cam. i kno the f20 has more horse power but the h22 has more torque the f22 rev limiter goes a whole grand higher but my mechanic says he would stay with the h22 i jus need a few more opinions

maybe someone should answer the man's question since he originally posted the thread lol. we all see that there is an h23a vtec. lol