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Old 10-04-2005, 10:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Another one bites the dust... Megan header that is. haha

Well, I hate when I have to say this, but You all told me so. I bought the header off ebay, and my intitial photos appeared to have great quality welds and all. As people stated, in about 4 weeks or so it would burn out around the middle support bracket and bust off.. GUESS WHAT!?

Eh, Heres pics to tell you the story.. I just thought I'd admit the header does suck because of this weak spot after all, and my advice to anybody buying it:

It's fine if you DO NOT BOLT UP THIS BRACKET YOU DO NOT NEED TO. It will break eventually. I promise, as well as the other many people this has happened to.





So my uncle hooked me up and welded it back on / shut for me.. I re-installed it but I REMOVED the bracket mounting plate from the back of the engine so it wont bonk, rub, brush against, or otherwise be able to damage itself again. (we would assume / hope)









Then I was done, took it for a drive, all is well for now. Just had to post to ad to the stories about that *** damn bracket breaking off. K later guys ~ Brett
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It takes galls to admit to that... But thanks for the heads up. I'm sure this will clear the road for many.

Besides the fault in the contruction of the header, how does it perform?

.... I want that welding maching
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Old 10-04-2005, 07:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Electric MIG welder, I want it too, lol. My uncle has got my back on many occasions when I couldn't supply the necessary tools, so thank god for that connection. Uhh, Well I have a shaved head, for slightly higher compression, The Megan header, Ebay polished CAI, which i cut down some so it sits next to the battery, and an Apex-I Universal World Sport II Muffler. I could probably dyno about 150hp/150torque I dont know, when I scrape up some change I'll do a few quick runs of it as is to see what gains were made by my minimal mods thus far.

Other then the obvious flaw, the header performs great although i only drove the car a whopping 3 miles with the stock exhaust manifold on it lol ~ Brett
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Old 10-10-2005, 06:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Great info. I've been reading up on those that have the Megan headers and contemplated on switching over from my DC Sports CC headers. They're getting old (5 years now) and wanted something new. Now I know the pros and cons with this brand of headers. Again, good info.
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ahh yes...I should send you mine for welding.
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Old 10-11-2005, 08:24 AM   #6 (permalink)
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i looked at mine this weekend when i was doing the oil pan gasket replacement, but i dont think its all the way through, it feels like its just the surface part off.....i hope.
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I'm not touching any megan exhaust products - EVER!
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Smart, very smart, lol
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that seems to be the only "weakness" of the product....
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^ not mentioning the fact that the collector is smaller than the standard one on the JDM ludes - thus if I bought one my car would be slower
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Listen, its a $100 header, what the hell do you expect?!

Its basically a copy of a DC, has a small collector just over 2", so its ibgger than stock USDM, I have measured myself.

It has the same problem as the DC header, that part always breaks off..

It's 100% stainless(yes, the flanges are stainless, cutting torch doesn't touch the crap), has welds that embarrass DC sports, and its 1/3 the cost of a DC, WHAT ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT?!?!
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Listen, its a $100 header, what the hell do you expect?!

Its basically a copy of a DC, has a small collector just over 2", so its ibgger than stock USDM, I have measured myself.

It has the same problem as the DC header, that part always breaks off..

It's 100% stainless(yes, the flanges are stainless, cutting torch doesn't touch the crap), has welds that embarrass DC sports, and its 1/3 the cost of a DC, WHAT ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT?!?!
I've had my DC on my car for over 4 years. It hasn't broken. The welds may not look as pretty, but they are done better. Only shotty welds would fail like in the megan picture above.
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Listen, its a $100 header, what the hell do you expect?!

Its basically a copy of a DC, has a small collector just over 2", so its ibgger than stock USDM, I have measured myself.

It has the same problem as the DC header, that part always breaks off..

It's 100% stainless(yes, the flanges are stainless, cutting torch doesn't touch the crap), has welds that embarrass DC sports, and its 1/3 the cost of a DC, WHAT ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT?!?!
i'm in the same boat as garn.........yeah that bracket broke but i got it welded for 10 bux so 100 + 10 = 110 bux for a header that does just as good as a dc header for much more

and since h23's don't have a wide selection, i would still tell yall to get one if you are in the market
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I've had my DC on my car for over 4 years. It hasn't broken. The welds may not look as pretty, but they are done better. Only shotty welds would fail like in the megan picture above.
I'm not sure what rock you have hiding under, but its obvious there are tons of problems with the DC headers in the same location..

The problem with the Megan header is the thinness of the stainless tubing.. You can tell in the picture, the weld held up fine(on the side that initially broke), it actually ripped the tubing, then when all of the stress was on the small weld spot, that failed.

The welds on my megan header were pretty nice imo, good penetration w/no excess..

Anyways, when I installed mine, I had to pretty much force mine to bolt up, very tight fit.. that is obviously what causes the crack, the measurements must be off a bit..

and oddly enough, the angle is slightly off so that the part you see in the pic above that has the hole in the B pipe was the the side that was holding most of the constant stress, the two holes were not level when bolted up..

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Their exhaust seems to be doing me a good job, just that those exhaust manifolds aren't that great.
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oh yea, if anyone wants to buy just the muffler that comes with the megan catback, I have one for sale, $75 + shipping brand new with the hangers there..
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I'm not sure what rock you have hiding under, but its obvious there are tons of problems with the DC headers in the same location..

The problem with the Megan header is the thinness of the stainless tubing.. You can tell in the picture, the weld held up fine(on the side that initially broke), it actually ripped the tubing, then when all of the stress was on the small weld spot, that failed.

The welds on my megan header were pretty nice imo, good penetration w/no excess..

Anyways, when I installed mine, I had to pretty much force mine to bolt up, very tight fit.. that is obviously what causes the crack, the measurements must be off a bit..

and oddly enough, the angle is slightly off so that the part you see in the pic above that has the hole in the B pipe was the the side that was holding most of the constant stress, the two holes were not level when bolted up..

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The DC header problem that a lot of people have is the bracket itself breaking. When the braket breaks, it doesn't rip pieces out of the piping.

Not sure how much about welding or material properties you know, but poor welding technique can lead to weakening of the surrounding material.

If the welds were perfect, and the piping was THE reason for the failure, BOTH sides would have a chunk out of the piping, but as you can see from the pictures, the left side failed in the weld, not the piping.
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The DC header problem that a lot of people have is the bracket itself breaking. When the braket breaks, it doesn't rip pieces out of the piping.

Not sure how much about welding or material properties you know, but poor welding technique can lead to weakening of the surrounding material.

If the welds were perfect, and the piping was THE reason for the failure, BOTH sides would have a chunk out of the piping, but as you can see from the pictures, the left side failed in the weld, not the piping.
Yes, but if the right side pulled off, which it did in my case, and probably this one, like I mentioned above, then all the stress would be on that one small weld...

That is the reason for that one failing..

Enough of this though, I don't care what anyone thinks of megan, the only product I have of theirs is the resonated test pipe..

If you wanna spend 3x's the amount for a similar problem on a DC header, go ahead, I would buy the Megan again if I were NA..
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As someone mentioned above, the tube itself actually heated up, and tore out in that location due to stress. The other side, was almost cracked off, I put my hand on it to remove it from the hanger bolt location and the other side came off as well, It was not necessary to even be bolted up in that area though. I would recomend to anybody thinking about purchasing that header simply to NOT bolt up the two hanger bolts on the back of the engine, it is not necessary, and will cost you downtime to get that cracked bracket repaired. Save yourself the headache..

My only other complaint is the company name itself, being welded onto the #2 cylinder tube. I HATE that name (no offence to anybody on here or those you know) I just had a little stalker ***** issue which makes me wana cut that damn thing off ~ Brett
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My only other complaint is the company name itself, being welded onto the #2 cylinder tube. I HATE that name (no offence to anybody on here or those you know) I just had a little stalker ***** issue which makes me wana cut that damn thing off ~ Brett
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