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Old 12-27-2004, 01:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I m sure everyone noticed that the lude is lower in the front than it is in the rear. Well thats what it looks like at least. The front of the car points lower than the rear does. I ve noticed that b4, but never really gave it any attention. I was out yesterday at i took a side shot for kicks, and somehow i dont like the way the car is sittin. I carefully adjusted my suspension myself and all my measurements are accurate, the wheel gap is dead even, but I think the rear should lowered some more to allow the body to sit evenly on a flat line, and not point towards the ground on the front and higher on the rear like its doing right now. I m goin to try it in a few days, gives me something to do during holidays... but i wanted to get some opinions.

Did any of you ever paid attention to this detail ? If so what did u do about it ? Do you care about it or its just a minor detail to you ? Do you like the lude sittin pointing int he front and have the rear end higher, or would u like it better if it was even ?

Here is the pic i took, my car is low enough, but if u look well, u should see what i m talkin about. If not, go outside and look at your car...



edit.. here is a older pic with with my rims on, u can also see what i mean there.
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Old 12-27-2004, 03:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Personally I think it looks pretty even on mine and yours. Part of me thinks it may be an illusion to some extent because the front skirt is parallel with the ground while the rear tilts up, giving the impression the front is lower. I only noticed the rear raise up on mine after I took out my spare tire and jack for racing. Now the back sits up a tad higher but I could care less.
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Old 12-27-2004, 03:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well, upon closer inspection, you have more gap in the front than the back. According to your measurements, the drop is even. This being said, the car would have to be lower in the back already (from the factory), which is what you want.



From my slightly weak argument, i think you could assume that the body is not parallel to the ground on purpose.











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Old 12-27-2004, 04:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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whoa thats was some CSI action there!
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mine is like that to Si_g and yes ive noticed it and no its not a problem....
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^^^ yea i see it on your car too. Its not a problem, dont get me wrong, i was just curious to know why it was like that. Now that nathan analyzed the pic, the rear is indeed lower, so i guess its just an illusion. I ll try to lower sometime, i m curious to see how it ll look if the body "looks" parallel to the ground.
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well here's my take on it.... from the factory I do believe that it does point down alil considering that most of the handling is in the front. But as mentioned above the appearance of it pointing down is also enhance by 2 things... the rear bumper is in a slant upward.... & the fact that (from the side profile) the rear in general looks bigger (taller).

In my case the measurement I use is taken from the center of the bottom of the fender wells right above the tire.. to the ground. But I noticed that when ever I set these 2 measurements to the same height ... my front end seems higher... even from the inside... kinda like if it's pointing up, I feel like I'm taking off ... upward hehe.

I too set the front lower than the rear... cuz I feel my sides look lower than my front lip, which is another reason I wanna add alil somethin somethin to the front.
I have seen other 4thgens with the same kit & their front lips look lower than mine... I wonder what setup they have... my ground controls are about an inch till they're at the very bottom of the sleeve.



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I see what u r saying. my front seems to be point down which is find, but once i lower the back some more we it ll be more clear to see the difference. My sleeves in the front are all the way down, and the ones in the rear have easily a inch and a half left. I thought about swappin the sleeves to see what would happen? its a lot of work tho, but if i got some time, i ll give it a shot.
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I see what u r saying. my front seems to be point down which is find, but once i lower the back some more we it ll be more clear to see the difference. My sleeves in the front are all the way down, and the ones in the rear have easily a inch and a half left. I thought about swappin the sleeves to see what would happen? its a lot of work tho, but if i got some time, i ll give it a shot.
What setup are you running.. I have Tokico Blues with Ground Control's.. & not matter how low I set the front sleeves I don't get the tuckage I want or drop I want. Of course going this low will only be at the shows... but still. My rear goes WAY lower than the front but at that point it just looks odd, haha. I don't think swapping the sleeves will make much of a difference.. but try it when you get a chance... I'd like to see if it'll change anything.


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May car handles better with the Rear about 1/2" higher than the front...
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What setup are you running.. I have Tokico Blues with Ground Control's.. & not matter how low I set the front sleeves I don't get the tuckage I want or drop I want. Of course going this low will only be at the shows... but still. My rear goes WAY lower than the front but at that point it just looks odd, haha. I don't think swapping the sleeves will make much of a difference.. but try it when you get a chance... I'd like to see if it'll change anything.


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i got tokico illuminas with skunk2 coilovers. I think with the rear sleeves up front it might tuck, think aobut it, u can go a lot lower with the rear sleeves. If i can find some rear sleves i might just try in it the front cause if not i ll have to take everything out and redo it if idont like it. But i dont know i might just lower the rear another half inch or less maybe and see, that will tuck for sure, but i m sure i wont mind, that may bring the body to "look" parallel who knows.
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actually my front has more gap than the back, and I hate it. Come spring I'm going to drop the front a decimal or two and raise the back a smidge.
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Wheel gap really doesnt mean much because the fender wells arnt the same. Even though you have the same wheel gap that doesnt necessarily mean the car will be level. Take measurments from the front and back and even them out I guess. I would leave it i think it looks mean with the back a bit higher anyways it will help your handling as well.
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my car is very even, ru sure its not just how u have ur stuff adjusted, plus them whye rims are ***
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ive got a crack in one of my rims. wanna sell 'a' rim hehehe
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Old 01-24-2005, 04:16 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Yea my back is lower than my front, so be happy :P

But i guess its sorta normal both ways (depending on which car)
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Old 03-01-2005, 06:55 PM   #17 (permalink)
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well i finally had a chance to readjust my suspesion. So i lowered my rear just a tad to change the illusion...so here is a pic. btw the alignment result were even better than they were with the previous settings. And with these new tires (BFG Gforce sport 215 40 zr 17) The handling is just incredible. No way to describe... but if u r local, i ll be happy to give u a ride I bet some of you may not even notice the diff, but its there. So...opinions... likes... dislikes...comments ?

i like it better this way.


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