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Old 06-01-2002, 09:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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aem or iceman? help a newbie

i've got a 'stock 94 vtec prelude and i'm intent on doing some mods to it this summer but i dont really know what to start with. i'm looking at an aem or iceman cai. i found the aem online for under $190 shipped which seems like a good price, but it seems harder to install than the iceman. does anyone know if you need to enlarge the hole in the body to install the aem cai? if so, can i do it on my own?

basically i would like some input on what i should start with to get more out of my car and make driving it more fun. i really dont have much experience. any advice is appreciated (on intakes, headers, pulleys, exhausts....etc). any websites or shops in the dallas/austin, Tx area would be nice too.

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Re: aem or iceman? help a newbie

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i've got a 'stock 94 vtec prelude and i'm intent on doing some mods to it this summer but i dont really know what to start with. i'm looking at an aem or iceman cai. i found the aem online for under $190 shipped which seems like a good price, but it seems harder to install than the iceman. does anyone know if you need to enlarge the hole in the body to install the aem cai? if so, can i do it on my own?

basically i would like some input on what i should start with to get more out of my car and make driving it more fun. i really dont have much experience. any advice is appreciated (on intakes, headers, pulleys, exhausts....etc). any websites or shops in the dallas/austin, Tx area would be nice too.

thanks
that price sounds good to me, also you may have to modify the hole a tiny bit,(i just banged it out with a hammer a little bit) but not much at all(no sawing!) The install is VERY simple and you will love it! good choice on your first mod....
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Old 06-01-2002, 10:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
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dude, get on ebay and buy a nonamed for $45.

its JUST a name. Honest.
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Old 06-01-2002, 10:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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dude, get on ebay and buy a nonamed for $45.

its JUST a name. Honest.

have to agree with soopaswoze!
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Yeah, get a no brand, and when smog time comes around, jes pop the stock one back on (hella easy) then ur set
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Old 06-02-2002, 12:29 AM   #6 (permalink)
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really? i thought aem cai works better than those imitation ones.
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its just a pipe... go with a no name brand
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its just a pipe... go with a no name brand
what he said ^

it'd be exactly the same using plumbers pipe. it amazes me people still pay $200 for that 5hp difference
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Old 06-02-2002, 10:13 AM   #9 (permalink)
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The AEm is a good choice to go with. i couldnt be happier with my AEM you probably will have to enlarge the whole a little bit but its not hard. the installation is pretty simple. Upgrade your suspension after the cold air intake because your already fast enough to beat most 4 bangers on the street . then worry about all the other mods like a header/pullies/exhaust/cams etc

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Old 06-02-2002, 10:58 AM   #10 (permalink)
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get an iceman off groupbuycenter for like $125
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Old 06-02-2002, 11:11 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I'd like the both of you to explain WHY he should purchase an Iceman, or AEM?

Cmon, go ahead. You can do it.

Or can't you?

As everyone else said, get a noname off of Ebay.
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what exactly do mean when you say suspension? like lowering my car, that kind of stuff? the roads in austin are pretty bad, i dont really want to lower my car for fear of scraping everywhere. about how much would upgrading my suspension cost?
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Adjustable coilovers/ struts/strut bars/sway bars. id say go with the AEM because they are Carb exempt. theres no need to start a war over an opinion.
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id like both of you to explain why he should purchase an iceman or AEM?

C'mon, go ahead. you can do it .

or can't you?
so why dont ya just shut up, Do you have a OBX exhaust and an R1 header off Ebay too??

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Adjustable coilovers/ struts/strut bars/sway bars. id say go with the AEM because they are Carb exempt. theres no need to start a war over an opinion.

so why dont ya just shut up, Do you have a OBX exhaust and an R1 header off Ebay too??

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RSR exhaust
DC sports header
AEM pullies
Custom clutch
Shutup?
The quality of intake piping is the same, because it's just that - a ceramic pipe (in most cases).

I have an Injen intake, and I regret paying $200 for measely gains that an intake will give you. Especially when the only difference between my CAI, and a noname off of Ebay is a sticker.

Many people have OBX exhausts, and like them - Many people dish out the $$ for Thermal, and they start to rust horribly.

My opinon is just that, an opinion, and if you think that you can "shutup" my opinion, go ahead and try. But prove to me the differences. Then I will shutup.

Oh, and I'm so, so dearly impressed with your setup.

Oh, and while we're at it let's compare Headers, Camgears, and Pullies to an Intake piping.

I speak from experience, not hearsay.
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And I believe TX is very lenient when it comes to modifications, CARB exempt is more for those folk in CA, since they're restrictions are much higher, and something must be CARB'd to pass the Visual.
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i dont see any "generic" intakes that are cold air. is there a big difference between short ram and cold air. what about those foam lookin filters?
oh yea, i took out my resonator. does it do anything important other than quieten the intake. i was figuring that it would have to go anyways if i got a cai.

thanks for your opinions guys
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i dont see any "generic" intakes that are cold air. is there a big difference between short ram and cold air. what about those foam lookin filters?
oh yea, i took out my resonator. does it do anything important other than quieten the intake. i was figuring that it would have to go anyways if i got a cai.

thanks for your opinions guys
Cold air is just a short ram with a piping extension, leading the filter to infront of your wheel well (unless custom).

I wouldnt reccomend foam filters. They aren't washable, just get a normal K&N conical.

Oh, and there is a bit of a difference between CAI and Shortrams.. Mainly the fact that the short ram typically places the filter RIGHT alongside your block (engine). Which means the heat that is created by your engine will be "inhaled" through your intake, defeating the entire purpose of having an intake. Sure it gets more air, but COLD air is what you want, HOT air is very detrimental.
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I hope Vteg doesnt mind.. but heres a good example of a shortram w/CAI extension

Vteg's motor

the chromey pipe (closest to engines intake)would be a shortram. obviously it'd be bad to have the filter sucking in air right there..
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i dont really know if you can compare exhaust and headers to intake because not all exhausts are the same whereas all the cai are. The reason why AEM is expensive is because of the price of research and devolopement, all the other compants just buy one aem intake and make a mold from it, and voila they have a cai at about 1/4 the price.
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i still havent found a cheap cold air intake. they all look like shortram. any one got any links or anything?
also, what would be a good next step after an intake?
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