jinusean

Well my question is does anyone have a wiring diagram so that I can correctly wire up my HID kit correctly. Apparently, my Hella HID kit does not give 100% output with the lighting. I am sure that it works correctly on a factory car equiped with H4s because my dads 97 Toyota Camry runs H4s as well as my cousins Civic. On both cars, the HIDs work great, but since my JDM H4s only come with 2 wires, it only works like 50% lighting.

Can anyone suggest how to wire a true H4 rather than just a negative and postive orginally from the 9006 connectors.

I just cut off my stock 9006 bulb harness and put on my H4 from the JDM headlights and they work, just that they look just like normal H4.

Any help on how to wire it up correctly so that I could get it looking like it's suppose to will be greatly appreciated!

Thanks luders!

spin_r_g

Thats how an H4 works same thing theres a + and -. The only difference is a true H4 has a second filiment which is the high beam. Theres a second + wire that is connected. So changing how you wired it won't make a difference. Unless you feel you are not getting enough power for the kit then you could hook a relay. The reason why the light is probably poor is because of the headlight design it self. The JDM headlights don't put out that much light in the first place.

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rayslude

you might want to look at suvlights.com, they make a conversion harness that is plug and play that will use all 3 wires for the H4, it costs like $60, it's worth it in my opinion...

jinusean

I doubt that it is the headlight that has the poor design. The turn out is the same even with the bulb out of the housing. That is why I believe it has nothing to do with the headlight design. I will have to take a picture of it, I think it already has a relay on there. I believe the relay is the connectors that go straight to the battery. Well my HID kit already has that, even with that it still doesn't light up that well. Thanks for the hint though.

Thanks for the help on that but according to the reviews on that page...I wouldn't trust them people with a penny. Their boards are only full of reviews how suck @ss they are at business and quality. Thanks though, I think mines already has a harness just that the bulb itself doesn't like to work to well. I'll look into whatelse could be the problem.

rayslude

Thats wierd, I have the harness and haven't had any trouble out of mine, id rather have a complete plug 'n play than splicing all my wires, but to each thier own...

spin_r_g

So you're saying the when you turn on the hids them self the light output is bad on your prelude but it works fine on the camry and civic? Then the problem is on the install on your prelude you must have a loose wire somewhere or something. By pass the harness and just connect the ballast to the battery and see if the light is the same. If your bulb ignites fine and puts out the light its supposed to then you have a problem with your splice or ground. I've had a plug and play hid kit before with no problems using the 9006 wirring, and I'm currently running hid projectors in my jdm headlights still off the same 9006 wirring and a relay and there is still no problem. Theres no reason why just cutting off the 9006 plug and splicing a h4 plug on with 2 wires wouldn't work. Take a picture of your hid setup and your splice to the 9006 wires.

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MidNiteMysT

well, if you have the harness that connects to your battery, the two wires that connect to the harness from your car is almost insignificant. it draws a ridiculously low amount of current because its only considered a trigger to activate the circuit and start to close the circuit allowed the ballasts to draw power straight from the battery. the third wire your talking about that come on stock h4 cars is for the second filament and im pretty sure your kit not a bixenon kit, it is probably a low beam only so the third wire wouldnt do a thing. its drawing power directly from the battery so i dont see how it would be producing 50% power. and plus, xenon wouldnt work at "50% power" see, xenon doesnt work the same way as a halogen, in a halogen setup, the light would just be dimmer, but in a xenon set up, you NEED the proper amount of power to keep the arc stable within the bulb. or else, it simply wont light or youll bef be able to tell that something is wrong because it will give a very amber looking color. so since its connected directly to the battery via harness, then it should be drawing as much energy as it needs. jdm headlights dont take hid light too well because of its optics. its made for halogen, not hid. some headlights work better with hid light then others. unfortunate for us, it doesnt handle it too well.

MidNiteMysT

i just want to make sure of something, ive never heard you mention a ballast. you are using a ballast right? i just want to make sure your using an actual xenon system and not a "xenon-filled halogen bulb" which people confuse for xenon sometimes.
i know a guy who can make a harness for you, im not sure if he still makes em, but he did a really really good job on mine. top quality stuff. he can make it for a bixenon kit like yours so your high beams would activate the high beam solenoid in your kit. then you can wire your h1 on a seperate fog light switch using a fog light wiring kit.

spin r g is right on everything he said. jdm headlights dont light up the road very well at all. the BEST way to do it is to retofit projectors, but not everyone has the time and money to mess with that. btw, what brand bulbs do you have, what kelvin are they and what brand ballast do you have? you can connected the negative part of the harness right to the negative part on the battery. i havent had a problem. i dont think its a problem since the negative terminal on the battery is grounded directly to the chassis anyway so i think its just as good as grounding it to the chassis itself.

let us know more info and what other problems your having and ill try to help you.

jinusean

Yes, I am using a Hella Ballast which is a bi-xenon HID kit. I also have a Phillips kit with a rebased ignitor(I think that's what its refered to). The Hella kit came with a wiring harness but even with the wiring harness kit, lighting is very very poor. It starts off looking very nice, then dims worst than ebay cheap xenon gas charged bulbs (they are crappy, I know), but seems to be like lighting can't get any worse.

I just ordered some new Phillips bulbs so I just hope that will make the output much better. It's just that my hella kit is pretty much doing nothing so I just took it out and have the wiring harness left for my phillips kit. The Phillips kit needs the wiring harness or it refuses to light up.

Everything is grounded and the relay is chilling on the side wall so I'm sure that wouldn't be a problem. I also need to get a new JDM headlight since I scratched mines all up with sand paper....don't ask...I need a new one soon because it gives my drivers side headlight no lighting at all. I'm pretty much running on one HID, but I gotta admit...it's better than one hallogen.

MidNiteMysT

maybe get a new relay kit... im not sure. and what kelvin are these bulbs?

jinusean

I just ordered some 4300k Phillips rebased bulbs. The hella kit comes with 4300k as well I believe, its output is very nice on the camry and civic.

MidNiteMysT

o, i saw your sig and thought it would be 6000k or up. 4300 is the best

MidNiteMysT

btw, where did you get your rebased bulbs and for how much?

jinusean

ebay $50 and the sig picture is them just warming up...it's not like that at all..hehehe, I had to get it perfect timed to get them that color.

MidNiteMysT

ooo, makes sense. i like the brillant white that it puts out more then the warming up period of blue.

Paperchasin

i had a mcculloch h4 5000k kit in my jdm headlights and there was some glare, but overall waaay better than any regular bulb....i just got another prelude and will be running the same setup again....