I have been up all night browsing po.com. like from 11pm to now which is 4am. **** i forgot that i've got court in the morning. anyway. i have not noticed anything about 4ws swap. i really don't care about the functionality of 4ws, the expense and what not. i just want to have it cause it ****ing rocks!!
so does anybody know about doing a swap on this. what all would i need? where does it all go? mechanically, i understand most of the stuff i need. but isn't there and angle sensor in the rear of the car AND one in the engine? where does that one go? let get something started here.
All the rear suspension arms and links are different. There are some extra mounting point on the chasis as well.
You will need a front steering rack from a 4ws lude for the sensor in there, and all the wheel speed sensors.
Not to mention the 4WS computer in the trunk (which has 48 wires going to it) and the rear steering rack.
Absolut is right, the 4WS system is not an easy swap. It requires many parts and is very in depth. The system uses ABS speed sensors to calculate steering angels and there is also a motor which is mounted under the car for power to the tie rods.
I definately want 4WS (It's what made me fall in love with the lude in the first place) but I've never had a chance to drive a 4WS.... Although I'm talking to a guy with a 93 4WS 5speed. with 99k and all maintenance records... he wants 6800 for it, I think its a decent price, but I would like to get it lower...
so the si preludes don't have the connectors for the 4ws allready in them? I noticed 4ws fuse connectors in the fuse boxes. and when strippinf down my wrecked 92 si, i found 2 orange capped off connectors in the rear wall panels? what are these for? i haven't found anything on those either on PO.
Originally posted by willmbrk Thats my plan as soon as I figure out the smog Laws in CA. Ive got the 94 4WS 5speed, now I just need an H22 with LSD tranny.
bill i might be able to help you out on that. i have a buddy taht just pass smog with a JDM h22, let me call him up an find out one of these days to see wat he did to pass. He had a F22 and drop a h22
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Originally posted by fleshbox does the 4WS handle better? or just turn tighter?
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That's all a matter of opinion. Many people argue that it's not better for high speed cornering but other will tell you different. I bought my 4WS instead of a VTEC Lude because I thought it was worth it, it has been.
Originally posted by Red4WS The only time i notice the difference is when im doing a u-turn...cuts off about 2 feet in turning radius. Other than that you really cant tell.
Other then that YOU can't tell, but others may be able to.
It's a good ice breaker. "Hey check it out, my back wheels turn!"
Originally posted by Whitea207 What exactly does the 4ws do?? i know it means 4 wheel steer, but does that mean all the wheels move or what? im confused
I don't knoiw the specifics, but I do know that in 3rd gen ludes the rear wheels are mechanically turned, linked to the front, for the first quarter of a turn of your steering wheel they turned the same direction as the front and then they turned back the other direction after you turned more.. From what I understand on ther 4th gen they moved to an electronic control of some sort andI think the turning direction is linked to the cars velocity... I could be wrong though... someone correct me if I am wrong please...
Originally posted by Whitea207 What exactly does the 4ws do?? i know it means 4 wheel steer, but does that mean all the wheels move or what? im confused
It steers all 4 wheels. The way it works in the 4th gen is that it is electronically controled. At speeds under (roughly) 22 mph, the rear wheels will turn in opposite directions to the front wheels. At speeds higher than 22 mph it will turn the same directions as the front wheels. Don't be too alarm, the rear wheels will only turn to a maximum of about 6 degrees. Doesn't seem like much, but it does help a lot.
At high speeds, it can be a little scary if you are not use to the system (such as changing lanes on the freeway quickly), you can really swing the car out too far, then you'll have to try to catch yourself and swing yourself back.
As far as slower speed turning, its great... taking u-turns are actually cut down.
Hope that helps.
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The Prelude electronic 4-wheel steering system gives it exceptional handling and enhanced stability. At low speeds, it steers the rear wheels in the opposite direction of the front wheels. This decreases the Prelude's turning diameter- a feature that can be especially useful when making tight turns or parking in confine spaces.
As speed increases to around 18mph, electronic 4-wheel steering increases the Prelude's agility. In this mode, it allows the Prelude to change direction more quickly in transient maneuvers, such as lane changes on S-curves
Finally, ar highway speeds, electronic 4-wheel steering increases the Prelude's straight-line tracking and stability. 4WS enhances handling and maneuverability by steering the wheels in the same direction as the front wheels
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