i am looking for a 4th Gen and have come across a number of 4WS versions. What are the main issues with those as they get older? i assume they are expensive to fix-is that true? is it an easy convert back to non-4WS if it does break? is the susp the same (i have the adj kyb's-a camber kit- and the h&r sport springs in my current totalled car and want to switch them over). Would there be a any unforseen problems with putting my h22 in (i wouldn't think so but it's always good to ask)? is the bend in the exhaust different than the standard Si car?
The main issues seem to be with the 4ws computer. You may have to resolder the relays. They can be expensive to fix as the parts are rare, but you can find them for cheap, I know Mike D has a rear steering rack for sale in the personal classifieds. No idea on your suspension parts, you'll need to check the manufactures websites. No problems with the H22 swap, the 4ws is independent of the motor. No clue on the exhaust, here's a pic of mine to compare:
I personally love 4ws, tight U turns, great for parking, plus it just has that coolness factor.
I think I'm taking it a little to far. I just replaced the 4ws sticker cause it looked like this:
to this:
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Thanx that helps a little. i drove a Gen 3 with it and really liked it but i'm a little apprehensive to get one at this point because of the seeming expense of parts the replacement parts
Any car that is more than 10 years old is going to have issues. The 4WS is not really going to have any more than any other vehicle this age. The system is well-designed and pretty solid, with few issues that come up over time.
I would say the biggest problem is finding someone to align it- even the dealers can have a tought time, sometimes.
im going to be attempting the conversion in about a month....wish me luck. I am going to HOPE that the 4ws stuff is "right" as far as alignment goes. or I could justset the wheels on the ground and install the stuff......i dont know.
im going to be attempting the conversion in about a month....wish me luck. I am going to HOPE that the 4ws stuff is "right" as far as alignment goes. or I could justset the wheels on the ground and install the stuff......i dont know.
A "conversion" is incredibly complicated and expensive given the number of parts that have to be replaced. It's not just the rear rack, but also the front rack, an assload of wiring, steering column, sensors... a whole mess of stuff. Even with all the parts, a 4WS body and engine harness, and a gutted chassis, I would NOT want to do it.
A "conversion" is incredibly complicated and expensive given the number of parts that have to be replaced. It's not just the rear rack, but also the front rack, an assload of wiring, steering column, sensors... a whole mess of stuff. Even with all the parts, a 4WS body and engine harness, and a gutted chassis, I would NOT want to do it.
Yeah that's what i would think. going "to" 4ws has got to be more hassle than it's worth. I guess i would be concerned if i got one with reverting to non-4ws if something went wrong with it.
from the research that I have done, it's pretty much just plug in and wire up the sensors, then wire up everything else. There are a few wires that I don't know about....that get a signal from somewhere...I'll figure that out.
from the research that I have done, it's pretty much just plug in and wire up the sensors, then wire up everything else. There are a few wires that I don't know about....that get a signal from somewhere...I'll figure that out.
I'll read a little bit into it, I read it before though. right off the top of my head my main concern was the wires that get signals from the ignition.
Connector B
19------------------------ORN------------------------Vehicle speed sensor
Connector C
33-------------------------YEL-------------Damper
34-------------------------BLU-------------Damper
I thought I did know where the ones on connector C went, but I can't think of it right now. The ones I have in question (above) are the wires that seemed to go to junction connectors that are either different than the 2ws or have wires in the 4ws version that the 2ws doesn't
I wanted it so I paid it. If I decide not to do it, I will let you know ASAP. I bought it thinking that I could do the swap. I see no reason that I shouldn't be able to do it, it's just a complex changeover and then there's the fact that no one (to my knowledge) has attempted it. Then there is the thing "why do you want to convert, just buy a 4ws car" well, I have never seen a silver 4ws car and I like my car, but I want 4ws.
I'd be interested to know how it goes. What made you decide to do it?
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well, I have wanted to have it "just because" then blacklude4k let me drive his car one day last year and I love it. The car seems to turn tighter and smoother and lane changes just seem like the car glides across moreso than 2ws. I was going to get the parts from a car in GA (aftermath of RotorToaster 2004 incident....you may remember) but that ended up falling through. I found the parts again and couldn't pass it up. I think I can do it, but it just won't be fun. To be honest I would rather do an engine swap than do this 4ws - there's tons of writeups for the engine swaps. I have the two main sensors and a friend that is a certified honda mechanic with me here in tuscaloosa (at school) and I am going to be putting the sensors on with his help soon. Then on my spring break (mid march) ill be putting the unit on there. Oh and slipknot was gracious enough ( I am happy about this one ) to give me lots of wiring from all the plugins and stuff. The two sensors I have here with me have atleast 1ft of wirings and plugins attached!!
Oh, I also have a full set of 2002 ( I think - they are from ludehawk aka Jay) brakes...I'll do the brake conversion sometime soon.
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