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Old 03-30-2005, 10:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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4th gen ipod dock

Just a teaser for the 4th gen forum. More pics and info in my audio forum thread:
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so does that dock allow u to run it directly to the headunit w/o running it through the headfones?
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oh, and does it slide out? or do u pull it out? or does is it attached to the back of the ash try cover?
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Yes, the dock has a line out connection on the backside. The line out is connected to the auxilliary inputs on the headunit. The level of the line out connection does not change regardless of the volume setting on the ipod. . . you use the HU for volume control, and the ipod controls to change tracks and playlists.

The dock is mounted to the back of the ash tray door, although a good bit of modification is needed in order to get it to fit and operate properly. When you open the door, the dock flips out directly into place.
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yea, i was wondering myself how i should mount my ipod but i think ide rather connect it from the headphone jack so i have the ability to move it around and pick it up so i can scroll through options or songs or something. does your way offer better sound quality.
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nice... I was thinking about doing that, but I use my ashtray for cigarette butts.

I have my iPod setup with the Belkin Adaptor kit.
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i think its actually better to do it that way... if he has it hooked up the way i think he might, with some alpine hu's u can get an optional ipod interface cable and actually control the ipod through the headunit, just as you would on the ipod itself, just pick up the remote, and go from there, thats what im plannin on doing anyway once i save up enough to get a nice alpine
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My head unit is not capable of using the Alpine ipod interface. I have no intentions of paying to upgrade my HU, then buying the Alpine interface (which has some big operational bugs).

There is an advantage to using the line out connection available through the dock connector over using the headphone jack. The headphone jack is an amplified signal, the dock output is not. Typically, you can get better sound and control when using a non-amplified signal. There are several chargers on the market that use the line output on the dock connector (I think the Belkin does, but actually has another built in amplifier).

all the seach and track controls are easily accesible when the ipod is in the dock, and the screeen is clesrly visable. It's not like I can't just pick it up off the dock and mess around with the menus should the need arise. I like having all the information in controls in one place, so I can keep my eyes on the road.
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My head unit is not capable of using the Alpine ipod interface. I have no intentions of paying to upgrade my HU, then buying the Alpine interface (which has some big operational bugs).
Care to give more details? What kind of operational bugs? I kinda like the idea of being able to control the ipod through the headunit
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Care to give more details? What kind of operational bugs? I kinda like the idea of being able to control the ipod through the headunit
From what I've read, the alpine interface does not allow you to change between playlists, can only load 200-some-odd song titles at once, takes a long time between tracks, and locks up after extened use (2+ hour drives). I applaud alpine for being the first aftermarket company to offer ipod integration, but I think I'll hold off till the next generation of products becomes available.
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Hmmm, this might turn into an audio discussion...

I've been reading up on alpine's HU and it's intergration with the iPod. It sounds like the 2nd gen iPod compatible HUs are going to address alot of the issues that the 1st gen HUs had. I've been keeping an eye on the iva-d310 that's supposed to come out end of april that's supposed to resolve the 256 track limit display and a 'slide touch' navigation thing that makes searching for songs and artists easier. Also there's supposed to be a iPod dedicated icon also.

I just picked up and iPod last week because I'm planning on buying iva-d310 when it comes out. That's all I know, if anything I said was wrong or if anyone else knows anything else on this subject let me know.
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Yeah, pictures and specs of the new units are up on Alpines site, and I've seen them on Ebay as well. I'd like to go that route eventually, but I just dropped $12k on a study abroad trip.
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Thanks a lot for the info! Also I think Pioneer has something similar, I wonder if it works better...
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Yeah, Pioneer and Kenwood have both released ipod interfaces
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