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Old 02-14-2008, 06:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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2 Cylinders Not Firing...help!!!!

I drove through a washed out road at night (couldn't see) at about 50 mph in 1 foot of water. These are the problems I am having...
1. at a idle the car jumps from 1000 to 2500 rpm
2. the far left 2 cylinders if you are looking at the car are not firing
3. the car has normal take off speed and normal hp when driving.

This is what I checked...
1. replaced cap,rotor and plugs
2. did compression test 150 psi on all 4 cylinders
3. checked injectors...all 4 are "ticking"

when the car is running I can pull the wires from the 2 dead cyinders and nothing happens. I pull the wires from the good cylinders and it sends the engine into a spasm...as it should. The engine shakes at a idle ( I assume from the missfires) I am going through fuel like a V8 and I can smell raw fuel in the exhaust. PLEASE HELP!!!!

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Old 02-14-2008, 06:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
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water got sucked up through your cai or what?
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i would think if water got sucked in the intake it would hydro lock up some cylinders and you engine wouldnt turn over at all. i would maybe take a resistance reading of your plug wire there should be about 1000 - 4000 ohms per foot. check your plugs see if there fouled make sure everthing is dry because your wires could be shorting. but it deffalenty sound like a spark problem. hope i might have helped a little bit.
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Old 02-14-2008, 07:19 PM   #4 (permalink)
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someone else suggested the hydro lock...but my car runs normal when driving. It's a weird problem and I am running out of things to check. I took the good wires from the 2 good cylinders and swaped them with the bad. I still had the same affect...the 2 cylinders didn't fire. do you suggest still doing the resistance reading/
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i hit the water pretty hard so I am sure that i sucked some water in. my car started to chug when i got out of the water...so i pulled over and turned it off. when i tried to restart it, it backfired so bad it blew a hole in my muffler. if i did suck in water what are some things i can check for or look to start fixing?

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yeah i didnt think it was hydro locked because if it was it wouldnt turn over at all let alone even run. but if u switched the plug wire and they worked they are fine so its got to be something with your distributer or plugs, and you said you checked checked your plugs . maybe try switching the plugs between the working cylinders and and the dead ones and see what happens. and double check our distubuter make shur theres no water in it and make sure all the conections are clean and dry.
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i hit the water pretty hard so I am sure that i sucked some water in. my car started to chug when i got out of the water...so i pulled over and turned it off. when i tried to restart it, it backfired so bad it blew a hole in my muffler. if i did suck in water what are some things i can check for or look to start fixing?
take your plugs out and turn it over to make sure all water is out. check oil make sure there is no water in it. there is you could have messed up some rings. im starting to get stuck on what to do. anyone else have any advise?
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I don't think it could be the distributer because i changed the cap and rotor and blew everything out with an air gun.....on the other hand..... i haven't taken the plugs out and tried turning it over. kind of step by step what am i looking for when i pull the plugs out and turn it over. i am starting to think more and more that i got water in the 2 chambers. by pulling the plugs and turning it over will it throw water out of the chamber or will i be able to see the water...great idea, haven't done that yet, just give me some more detail as to what i should be looking for. thanks bro
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fouled spark plugs?
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i replaced the spark plugs
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what about the spark plug wires on the 2 bad cylinders? Check if there's the proper resistance on them.
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I just pulled the engine code...it is the egr valve. does anyone think this could have anything to do with it?
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I don't think so. My egr system was plugged up real good and it didn't do much except hurt my gas mileage a little bit.
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no prob. your egr wouldnt have anything to do with the 2 cylinders misfireing. but if you pull the plugs and turn it over make shur your wires dont ark to anything like a computer or somthing. see if anything comes out.you should check your plugs and the plug gap also if you havent.

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i have replaced the plugs after the incident. you don't think the egr could be it? what were you talking about pulling the plugs and turning the car over?
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ok do you think it is a spark issue. the only thing i haven't changed are the wires. i took the known good wires that were firing on the good cylinders and put them on the bad. still had no effect. is that even a acurate test?
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yes if they work on the other side there is know reason why they wouldnt work on the other side. what i ment by taking the plugs out and turning it over is just to see if there is any water left in the cylinder. you could use a spark tester to see if you have spark in those cylinders. if theres spark there could only be three other possibleitys wich is either fuel compression or timeing.
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any body else have any advice?
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not sure if you did, but you said the only thing you didn't change were the wires. Check your spark plug wires for spark... simple way to rule if that's out. Also, if the cylinders are getting fuel, you're gonna be soaking your spark plugs every time you turn the car over to test. So regardless if you changed something as a possible fix, if you didn't let your plugs dry out from the previous run, you still wont get any spark from the plugs and make you think whatever it is you checked wasn't working.
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