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Old 07-27-2005, 06:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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im curious to know what would be necessary to build a 12 sec lude... would it be cheaper N/A or Forced induction? i know that the fastest way to get there would be using tha snail. but im wondering what should be done and about how much will i be spending to get in that range with a N/a car if possible?
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Old 07-27-2005, 06:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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be prepared to spend oober bank dollars, and have little to no interior
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If you are serious, and know how to build your cars with forced induction you would probably need about 450-550 (hp) to get you to a 12 second 1.4 mile time depending on other mods like weight redux and driver skill.

As far as N/A goes, uhh.. I wouldn't even bother trying for that kind of power N/a you probably won't make it.
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and to get that fast, you'll need to spend a decent amt on traction. 550 whp on fwd is crappy unless you have lsd, slicks and the whole 9
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This reminds me of a honda-tech post
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i'll be honest... and I don't mean to a dick or anything.....

those who ask this kind of question shouldn't even bother trying to build a 12 second car.......
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i'll be honest... and I don't mean to a dick or anything.....

those who ask this kind of question shouldn't even bother trying to build a 12 second car.......
I couldn't agree more
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You'll need Booocou dollar to get to 12sec pass.
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you can get into 12's with about 350whp and some slicks.
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im curious to know. i was wondering what it would need to build a car like that. if i do decide to do that then i would research more, but thanx to your honest opinions i realize that it no small feat. with that being said, what is a decent track time for a 4th gen that can be obtained in a daily driven car?
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im curious to know. i was wondering what it would need to build a car like that. if i do decide to do that then i would research more, but thanx to your honest opinions i realize that it no small feat. with that being said, what is a decent track time for a 4th gen that can be obtained in a daily driven car?
14s.........
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Mid to low 14s are a very good track time for a daily driven prelude. This can normally be done (if you're starting with a strong motor) with I/E/H/ VAFC for high 14s, and N20 for lows. It is possible with a good motor and nice turbo setup to get into 13s with a daily driver. What kind of motor do you have? To answer your question about what you need for 12s, I'd say besides an unlimited bank acount , a built bottom end, pnp head, big turbo, probably a n20 spool up kit to help turbo lag in 1/4 mile, and slicks to name a few things. I believe I have seen a 12 sec 4th gen in a Honda tuner or something with full interior. If I can find the article I'll scan it or a website.
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Originally Posted by TruNinja619
i'll be honest... and I don't mean to a dick or anything.....

those who ask this kind of question shouldn't even bother trying to build a 12 second car.......


thats a real dick thing to say theres no dumb questions untill the ones that arent asked, and i doubt you even know that its not that hard to build a 12 sec CAR doesnt have to be a prelude. Just for example so you dont think im just talking. ive seen 12 sec crx with a almost stock b18c5 or h22a rip it , and EG hatches that rip the 12 sec barrier, so dont be talking all the trash liek you the man homie and you know what your talkign about!
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i doubt you even know that its not that hard to build a 12 sec CAR doesnt have to be a prelude.
Maybe you should calm the hell down and read the orig. post again:

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im curious to know what would be necessary to build a 12 sec lude.
he didn't ask how hard it is to build a 12 second CRX, or gutted civic hatch . . . he asked about a prelude. I doubt he paid $6 to come here and here how to build a 12 second hybrid civic.

I'll stick by what truninja said, and agree that anyone asking questions like this either needs to . . .
A) Do a LOT more research before asking questions
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B) Write someone who knows what they are doing a large check
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thats a real dick thing to say theres no dumb questions untill the ones that arent asked, and i doubt you even know that its not that hard to build a 12 sec CAR doesnt have to be a prelude. Just for example so you dont think im just talking. ive seen 12 sec crx with a almost stock b18c5 or h22a rip it , and EG hatches that rip the 12 sec barrier, so dont be talking all the trash liek you the man homie and you know what your talkign about!
*sigh* please read again.....

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im curious to know what would be necessary to build a 12 sec lude... would it be cheaper N/A or Forced induction? i know that the fastest way to get there would be using tha snail. but im wondering what should be done and about how much will i be spending to get in that range with a N/a car if possible?
he's asking about a Prelude.. not a CRX or a hatch...

I personally have a good idea about doing it.... but there's better people with much more experience than I have towards building a drag car.....

Prelude_92: I don't know if you checked out this part of PO out... but this'll only help you a bunch......

http://preludeonline.com/forumdisplay.php?f=94

listen.. i'm not trying to be mean or anything....... but no offense.... someone that's asking on how to build a 12 second Prelude is such a broad question.... and it leaves me under the impression that this person doesn't know what he's getting himself into....

we're talking about literally thousands of dollars going down in parts and tuning... and the amount of time being put into this.... its probably into a point where you question that if it's even worth it.....

so yea....
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Mid to low 14s are a very good track time for a daily driven prelude. This can normally be done (if you're starting with a strong motor) with I/E/H/ VAFC for high 14s, and N20 for lows. It is possible with a good motor and nice turbo setup to get into 13s with a daily driver. What kind of motor do you have? To answer your question about what you need for 12s, I'd say besides an unlimited bank acount , a built bottom end, pnp head, big turbo, probably a n20 spool up kit to help turbo lag in 1/4 mile, and slicks to name a few things. I believe I have seen a 12 sec 4th gen in a Honda tuner or something with full interior. If I can find the article I'll scan it or a website.

is it that silver 4th gen?...

if so.. I'm trying to find that article as well... but I can't find it for some reason......
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VeeTec broke into the 13's in N/A form, then he sold the car
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450+ whp? are you kidding me?

It's all in suspension/tires.. you could break 12's with 300 whp no problem if you could lay the power down.. hell, there are mustang guys runnin high 11's on 300 whp(just to prove the point that the launch is everything).

If you have a ****ty setup, you probably wouldnt be any better in the 1/4 at 550 whp than you would be at 300 whp, just trap 15 mph faster lol..
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I highly doubt 300 HP on a prelude will take you into the 12 second range, thats quite fast.
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I highly doubt 300 HP on a prelude will take you into the 12 second range, thats quite fast.
12's on a 300 whp 2800 lb car is easy, if you can lay down the power, thats the hard part.
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