How do you break in to do it on a 5th gen that has a factory alarm-you are a pro who knows how to defeat the horn and lights, and has the key or a flatbed.
Actually it's really quite simple, they pull the hood release cable through the hood. The factory alarm never sounds, they cut the horn cable - no more noise to attract attention. Now they can lift whatever they want from your car. To me an alarm is all about how many layers of protection you have. Thiefs are not stupid, they're not gonna risk getting caught to try to prove some point (unless you're in the middle of the ghetto or something.) Let's use the same scenario with a really well installed aftermarket alarm:
1) Thief pulls hood release cable from the front of the car. If they don't set the alarm off with the shock sensor as soon as they lift the hood a pin switch sets it off. Now they get 125db siren wailing away (no wimpy horn.)
2) Thief trys to locate siren, nowhere to be seen (it's either low on the firewall or hidden behind the fender.) Thief moves to plan B and cuts the battery cable to try to kill the alarm. Woops, alarm is now powered by the backup battery and keeps on wailing away. Thief takes the "car end" of the battery cable and shorts it to ground in an attempt to cripple the backup battery. Sorry, it's diode isolated, try again.
3) Let's say all-the-while his buddy was jimmying the lock and got in the car while this was going on. When he opens the door he'll be greeted by 120db of piezo siren (wanna hear the most annoying noise in the world?)
4) Thief's panic and try to use the trunk release in a last ditch effort to steal your stuff. Since your alarm has remote trunk pop you locked the mechanical trunk and fold down seat releases.
5) Your alarm pager went off and you return to the car to beat up the two thugs in front of your girlfriend. Well, maybe I'm exaggerating a little there but you get the point.
A well installed alarm offers up layers of protection, the thief trys to quickly foil these and is met with a brick wall. Ya sure, a thief with enough determination could steal your car. All they have to do is wait from a distance for the backup battery to drain down in 5-10 minutes. But the point is, the crook doesn't want to risk getting caught so they will likely flee. If they can easily disable the alarm it's as good as useless.
Originally posted by CornerFreak as far as protection wise...I THINK they're all pretty much the same, if some really wants your car, they're going to take it...unless you get something like lojack...maybe someone else can prove me wrong...just my opinion
in my opinion...alarms are just convienance...you have an ss, so get the auto-start...i wish i had it, would help a lot when i go to work in the morning, auto start the car and have the heater going as soon as you get in the car...but i have manual so i didnt do that...what i DID get was windows up and down, moonroof open and close features...those are great for hot days or if you just wanna reach into your car to get something, just open the windows instead of opening your car door...dunno dunno, just my opinion
Damn near every auto-start device works with manuals.
They have it set up so that after you take out your key the car stays running until the door is opened and then closed.
(nearly imposible to leave it in gear) If someone opens your door while the car is parked. then it will not allow you to auto start your car in case that person put it in gear.
It's pretty fail-safe. The horror stories you hear about people wrecking thier cars because they left it in gear are from people who disable this saftey feature... in that case they deserve what they get.
I have an Alpine 8083 I think...don't remember. So far it's worked perfectly and never once have I had a false. I bought the paging unit as well and keep that in my apartment and even with my car being behind my building and me being on the 5th floor it goes off it the alarm goes off. I think I paid $450 installed with the paging unit and to me it was well worth it.
Alarms are more dependent on a good installer then a good alarm though. A great alarm with a crappy install is just an expensive headache and minimal protection IMHO.
does anyone know here i can purchase the compustar setup....i saw something for them tonite, and went to their website, and looks pretty good..i wanna try it, but need to find a place to order it from and find out how much they are charging for it...im not worried about installion cause i am going to install it myself(yes i know how to)....
CLIFFORD! I got an IG7000...awesome..it even has the Blackjax system on it...although...if you don't remember to disarm it, it'll activate. Also if you're a computer geek...its programmable via PC serial connection of a cable and software from CLifford for like 55bux. I love this alarm, but like everyone said "if they really want it...they'll take" happy hunting
Originally posted by THATPRELUDEGUY Alarms are more dependent on a good installer then a good alarm though. A great alarm with a crappy install is just an expensive headache and minimal protection IMHO.
could somebody tell me if a Avant Gaurd 3 is worth gettin...comes with remote start, one stage promixity senor ...could anybody explain the dual stage and one stage difference?...and some other cool ****
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