Originally posted by dopeVTECprelude i've got a 5-speed 98' lude, bone stock...redline starts at about 7800, but i always shift at 8k rpms...where is the revlimiter on a manual 5th gen.??
Is your TACH guage stock too?!? I have a pic of my TACH on my PC, and the Redline is at 7400 RPM's. Off course you can go above that, the Fuel-cut/Rev-limiter is around 8100-8200 RPM.
I never go above 8000 RPM's when I'm shifting "aggresively", at least not on purpose.
so manuel's are also 7400...?!?!?!? I thought they were a little higher because of the different gear ratios.....
some of these people coming on here talking about their SS's redline is 8k must not know what a REDLINE is....cause redline....where your tach TURNS RED...... is 7400....
so manuel's are also 7400...?!?!?!? I thought they were a little higher because of the different gear ratios.....
some of these people coming on here talking about their SS's redline is 8k must not know what a REDLINE is....cause redline....where your tach TURNS RED...... is 7400....
A rev limiter now is TOTALLY different......
I totally agree, some people are confusing the 2, But DOPEVTECPRELUDE (guy I was quoting) seemed to know that there is a difference between the 2. unfortunately his numbers are off, he stated his REDLINE is at 7800 when a 5G Lude actually has a REDLINE of 7400 RPM.
as far as the REDLINE (part where the TACH turns red) it is 7400 for a Base 5 speed and SH, and I'm pretty sure its also 7400 for a SS. As far as being able to go over the REDLINE, I cant speak for SS owners but SH and Base 5 speeds should be able to go to 8000 no problems, at least until you hit the REV-LIMITER/FUEL-CUT.
sorry about the confusion on the redline...i just guessed where mine is, i didn't go downstairs and actually look. i said about 7800, but i'll take ur word when you say 7400...but when i race, i usually take it up to 8k rpms and shift, so i was just wondering where the revlimiter would kick in at..also, someone explain this LC launch that you are talking about
Originally posted by dopeVTECprelude sorry about the confusion on the redline...i just guessed where mine is, i didn't go downstairs and actually look. i said about 7800, but i'll take ur word when you say 7400...but when i race, i usually take it up to 8k rpms and shift, so i was just wondering where the revlimiter would kick in at..also, someone explain this LC launch that you are talking about
It's all good
about the Rev-limiter/fuel-cut if you never go above 8000 RPM you'll never see it. Its somewhere above 8000 RPM I think its 8100 or 8200 not exactly sure. why doesn't somebody go out and find out just to be sure
and about the "LC Launch" its in the Prelude FAQ's
all 5th gens redline at 7400, fuel cut-off should be at 7600.
the stock tachs of our cars are off so therefore, many will have different redlines ACCORDING to their own tachs. MOST of us will see 8000, 8100, etc. but in reality, the engine is really spinning at 7400.
Originally posted by 01XLude For the last time...no...I've never seen a stock manuel run anything lower than a 15.6......
And lets be reasonable please.... there is no way in hell I'm driving all the way to So Cal just so you can show me some time slip and you running......
Oh.... and whats this great LC launch technique that you fools keep talking about....?!?!??
i will try to post pics of all my time slips, which are all under 15.5...
and the LC Launch check under the FAQ section
Originally posted by 01XLude For the last time...no...I've never seen a stock manuel run anything lower than a 15.6......
And lets be reasonable please.... there is no way in hell I'm driving all the way to So Cal just so you can show me some time slip and you running......
Oh.... and whats this great LC launch technique that you fools keep talking about....?!?!??
dude, just read how stupid that sounds
5th gen lude no better then 15.6....
my cousin ran a ****ing 15.5 with a si...
goto kill stories, and see how ludes run the **** out of si's....
secondly, why da hell would pple buy a freaking 15.6 car, when u can spend allot less money and buy a gs-r that runs' low 15's??
just face it, you can't drive. a 5th stock is 15.0 good driver 14's.. facts are facts kid..
Interesting times...I thought the SS would run a little better than flat 16s, since my Si ran a 15.9 and that was with 17inch wheels. Oh well, can't wait to see what my prelude will do though. I am hoping to get something in the low 15s. I will post my times when Milan and Keystone dragway opens.
Regarding fuel cut off, I think the stock tach is off quite a bit. I went to a dyno last weekend and I found out that I can actually rev up 8k and then power curve starts to dip and the rev limiter hits. I think if people drag race a lot a reliable aftermarket tach would be a good choice.
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Wow you guys are beefing it out eh? 1/4 mile times are dependant on SO much stuff.... Esp with the altitude and humidity and track condition(s)....
In the IDEAL world, the SS should run 16 flat and the SH should be doing 15.1 I believe, per Road and Track... But again: IDEALLY.
If your reaction time is .600 or BELOW...Man thats damn close to professional reaction times (Lisa Kubo/Papadakis etc)
The SS 60 ft times are what kills us. COmpare 60 ft times for the SAME driver in a SH vs SS... SH has much more pull on the low end 1st gear...Just how the tranny is made. 60 ft time should be .2 - .4 faster than SS...
People tend to place too much emphasis on 1/4 mile..Esp with the tracks being at diff altitudes, conditions, humidity etc....Maybe we all should race at the track here in Hawaii (Hawiai RAceway Park) and see what ALL your times are. I betcha you're slower than LACR or anywhere else!
Since I don't want to spend $1600 to ship my car over there, run the 1/4 mile, and then ship it back........ I'll just call my sister and she can run for me in her GT-S.....
so youve never seen a stock lude run low 15's?
i hit 15.2 at cali speedway and thats with a bad launch...
dont believe me? then just come down here to so cal and i will gladly show you my time slips, or even better i will show you how to do it using the LC launch
I was going to refer to you times haha Yeah I can vouch for his times though mine were pretty $hitty at the time.
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Magazines tests cars while they are still brand new, after the engine breaks in more, the car will be faster. That's why the 1/4 numbers off magazines are generally .2-.4 sec slower that what people actually do after the engines is broken in.
like the long term road test on the is300 in car & driver, the car did .3 faster after 40k miles then when it was brand new in the 1/4
So stock 5th gen ludes broken in should be able to hit high 14's to 15.2 stock, in good condidtions.
Originally posted by BlckLude98 Magazines tests cars while they are still brand new, after the engine breaks in more, the car will be faster. That's why the 1/4 numbers off magazines are generally .2-.4 sec slower that what people actually do after the engines is broken in.
I dont think the Magazines drive like we do though, how many of them launch hard and shift at 8000 RPM?
EDIT: and I dont think anyone would want to do the above on a new car anyways.
I just wanted to say just because you haven't see a car run a certain time at the track doesn't mean it can't happen. I personally have never seen a lude run better than a mid 15. I'm sure they can though, I think the drivers sucked. Also, where you run your car can make a difference to. The elevation and air temp of the track can make a big difference.
Car mag times, to me seem to be either too fast to too slow. The cars they run are dogged from the beginning. There sole purpose to let auto-journalists beat the crap out of them. So sometimes they get slow times cause the car wasn't properly broken in and it's beat. Faster times are probably acheived by the drivers who all they do is get performance numbers for a car mags and are way better than your average driver.
Cliff Notes: Car mag times are a rough estimate. Take the car to the track and get a time slip of your own.
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