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Old 05-29-2010, 04:44 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Much of what I post comes from many years (1979 to the present) of reading publications about the 1st thru 5th gen Prelude and my own experiences with the 2nd gen si and the 5th gen SH I know own. One of the articles I remember reading concerned braking. The stock brakes on your 2900lb Prelude are larger then the brakes on my 4000lb Lincoln Town car which means they are very able to say the least. As was stated in a article on the Prelude:If your driving technique on the street (non auto cross setting) is such that you are experiencing brake fade on a 5th gen Prelude , you really need to check your driving technique because something is very wrong. A brake upgrade for anyone other then a dedicated auto crosser is a waste of money.

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First of all, of course the braking is adequate from factory. In fact its pretty damn good. But a simple upgrade with some Hawk pads provides a much quicker bite even for daily driving. And being that they are at the price of OEM pads from Honda, why not? Hell, Im going to be replacing my OEM pads on my beater Integra with the Hawk pads now that my OEMs are worn out.

No one ever said here that we experienced brake fade anywhere (especially on the street). However, if you autocross on weekends or do track days, it is more than likely to happen as the stock rubber lines will tend to expand and weaken (hence the term FADE). At that point, yes stainless lines are a good upgrade.

What you fail to understand Roger, is for those of us who dont want to go around driving like a grandma all day (as I presume your stupid ass does), we like to make simple upgrades to give the Prelude a slightly tighter edge and driving feel.

And yes, many of us do autocross or go to road courses on the weekends. So, once again your BS is completely pointless and I don't even know why I bothered responding to its non-sense.



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3: In the real world at any given conner one must consider such problems as telephone poles, ditches and gravel so I am not able to charge into a conner, brake at the last second, and use close to 100% of the cars braking capabilities to slow me down at the conner so the additional stopping performance of such pads would not in reality ever be used.
You dont CHARGE a corner (spelled with an R before the N btw ). When track you brake hard in the braking zone PRIOR to the corner, then focus on the apex of the corner as you remove foot from brake (no braking in corners!), then you procede to accelerate while pulling through the corner. In an SH (which you claim to be a driver of), the ATTS helps pull this off much tighter and earlier in the corner than a non-sh Prelude does.

And, 100% of braking power would be kicking the ABS on. Better pads both grip quicker (making the braking feel tighter) and can usually handle higher temps, etc. In fact, true track based pads are required to warm up a little before they reach maximum braking power.


Omg, you are so pathetic it makes me laugh inside. On a good note, the OP is going to have thread full of useful knowledge from us, that shows why dumb-asses like you have no fvcking clue
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Old 05-29-2010, 04:55 PM   #22 (permalink)
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1. I never said a reduction of brake dust was a performance modification. I said the lack of brake dust saves money on cleaning it up.

2. The word is "corner", not "conner". The word is "plaque". The word is "inertia". The word is "than". Get a clue.

3. The pads I use are going to last appx 80k miles. Your standard metallic pads last about 50-60k.

4. Like I already stated, ceramic pads have better stopping ability. I'm not referring to racing. I'm referring to all situations. I don't know about your touge ways but I've had many times where I had to slam on the brakes to avoid some asshole. I'm glad I upgraded because I wouldn't have made it through most of those with my stock pads/rotors. And I don't have any engine modifications, unless you consider new spark plugs and plug wires. The only power adding done to my car is in the exhaust. That's it. My 10% jump in whp is just from my header.

5. A stock Prelude is faster than almost every V6 Mustang, and over 50% of the V8 Mustangs out there. Look at 0-60 times, 0-100 times, ¼-mile times, and 0-100-0 times. It takes a Mustang newer than the Prelude to win.

6. Don't PM me with any more of your bull****. You have a lot to learn about "real world" anything before you can attempt a debate with me. I am your superior.
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So I'm new to PO and very new to hating on Roger, but I like both. I was wondering if Tee-Dot has done one of his photo stealing of Roger in a previous thread.
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Alright well I completely agree with Kronn's list Get it maintenance-d all up, make sure it's running perfect, get some suspension, I need tires, then start the power upgrades Thank's for the input.
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Alright well I completely agree with Kronn
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