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Old 09-06-2008, 03:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Type s or S Spec

Hey guyz i need ur advice before purchasing my lude. I'm gonna import one from japan but i cant make up my mind which one i should buy, the type s or the Sir S spec.

type s: ATTS, no sunroof, 220hp,163 tq, both have navigation system,tv etc.
Sir S spec: LSD, sunroof, 220hp, 163 tq

Which type do you guyz suggest me ??
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Old 09-06-2008, 04:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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From what i've read and heard, people would prefer LSD over ATTS if there trying to build it like turbo etc. Soo... it really depends on you what you want to do with it. Again, im not absolutely sure, its just from what i've read =) hope this helps.!
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Old 09-06-2008, 04:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
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personally, sir s spec
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Old 09-06-2008, 05:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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You can get both without the sunroof... My plain old SiR doesn't have a sunroof
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Old 09-06-2008, 05:30 PM   #5 (permalink)
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S spec, but without sunroof.

LSD > ATTS and much more aftermarket stuff for the "base" chassis.
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Old 09-06-2008, 05:35 PM   #6 (permalink)
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S spec, but without sunroof.

LSD > ATTS and much more aftermarket stuff for the "base" chassis.
much more stuff for base? i disagree.

to me atts > lsd, unless you plan on fi.

any car can have an lsd, atts is something special.
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Old 09-07-2008, 09:17 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Get the Type-S. The front-suspension is entirely different, and a superior deisgn. Other many small bits only available on the Type-S not there on other models. And please..don't modify either car you get.
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Okay i have just read that LSD has 2 kind of systems: Viscous LSD's and helical LSD. Which one does the Sir use??
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much more stuff for base? i disagree.

to me atts > lsd, unless you plan on fi.

any car can have an lsd, atts is something special.
ATTS = A pain

Since it won't work with nearly every single engine tuning system.
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both have navigation system,tv etc.
a useless matter. the navigation system isn't equipped for north america (it being old) nor can it be updated. the TV won't work either since it's based on a 1SEG system, which is also Japan-only. besides, both will be in japanese only.
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Old 09-07-2008, 12:33 PM   #11 (permalink)
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ATTS = A pain

Since it won't work with nearly every single engine tuning system.
If you want to go with stand-alone engine management system then it is a pain in the arse. With ATTS, you are limited to piggy back engine management systems which are good for what they do but are still inferior to the tuning capabilities of a standalone.

As far as availbility of parts, it doesn't really make a difference. Most places advertise for the Base model only but most parts will work on the SH as well.

To the OP -

Basically, if you want to do any heavy mods (FI or NA built), then stick with a base prelude model, or in your case the SiR S-Spec. If you don't plan to do anything but bolt-ons and looks, then either would be a good platform.
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I have the Type S. You wont be dissapointed. Neither have or had the option for sunrrof or 4ws thet were both optional on the SIR. Also the sat nav was an option 2. I dont have it. Remeber JDM H22 use OBD1 so ATTS is tuner friendly with mods.
No problems with ATTS at all. Running 230hp. Remeber the Type S has Active ABS which the S-Spec doent have. Its quite amazing breaking system. Breaking round corners is great. Also correct oversteer too if needed.

SIR S-Spec weight 1270Kg
Type S weights 1310Kg

The LSD in the S-Spec is Viscous i think. But the S-Spec is way rarer. Apart from the ATTS/LSD they are exactly the same cars.

But the Type S is the way forward.
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Old 09-12-2008, 01:41 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Old 09-12-2008, 02:14 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Type-S. But of course I'm a little biased.
I love the S though.
Little known fact - the Type-S gets awesome mpg. I'm getting 31 on a regular basis.
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I have the Type S. You wont be dissapointed. Neither have or had the option for sunrrof or 4ws thet were both optional on the SIR. Also the sat nav was an option 2. I dont have it. Remeber JDM H22 use OBD1 so ATTS is tuner friendly with mods.
No problems with ATTS at all. Running 230hp. Remeber the Type S has Active ABS which the S-Spec doent have. Its quite amazing breaking system. Breaking round corners is great. Also correct oversteer too if needed.

SIR S-Spec weight 1270Kg
Type S weights 1310Kg

The LSD in the S-Spec is Viscous i think. But the S-Spec is way rarer. Apart from the ATTS/LSD they are exactly the same cars.

But the Type S is the way forward.
I haven't seen it in person but the Type S and SIR are not the same. The Type S (and SH) front suspension, as mentioned before, is a far better design than any other Honda including the base model. An SH with an LSD rather than a ATTS will out handle a base model with an LSD and the same suspension. Reason, completely different suspension, and I mean EVERYTHING, with huge emphasis on the radius rods. Unless you plan on doing extensive engine modding than a Type S will be a better option even if you take ATTS out you still get the some of the best front suspension Honda has made to date (for a production car).
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Yep i get 33mpg out of my Type S and i thrash it all the time.
Also the suspension as said by Jhall250 is so much better than other Preludes. Its completely different.
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31 and 33 mpg? If its 99% highway I would believe you. Otherwise gtfo.
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Old 09-13-2008, 11:29 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Get the SiR-Spec. I have an SH and I wish I would've went with a base model and just throw in a Quaife LSD or something. I did a lot of Auto Crossing/Road racing and the ATTS actually worked against me through slaloms and chicanes. It reacts too slow for quick turns.
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Seriously i get 33mph. About 70% motorway at 90mph. VTEC alot. I mean alot alot. I use Shell Vpower only. We have 99ron over here though.
Its all about driving style. Flooring it until required speed changing at 3500rpm saves so much fuel. Dont feel like it but it does. Also coasting in gear when traffic/roundabout/lights up ahead.
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UK and US gallons are different, comparisons on MPG will need adjustment.
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