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Old 03-16-2002, 01:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Turbo or Supercharge

Hey, guys, i was thinkin about more power, so i decided on either turbo or supersharger.. now , me not knowin much of the two, i was wondering what would be better, and what the pro's and con's of each are. oh and i would be lookin at a Jackson Racing Supercharger, or the new Greddy Turbo system for my 2001 SE.. and i have been told that the Greddy will fit on the SE.
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Turbo is higher maintanence is more harsh on your engine than a supercharger. Turbos run at higher boost and wear down your engine moreHowever turbos have the highest potential in boosting cars performance than superchargers. Supercharger is more for daily driving and the power is always there and doesnt need to spool up like a turbo. Supercharger is less harsh on your engine also. If you want every bit of power, turbo is the way to go. Youll need to keep in mind the other side components that go with forced induction mods. Youll be looking at upgraded fuel system, upgraded ignition system, boost controller/turbo timer if you go turbo, youll need one of those APEX VFC to monitor fuel and maybe some boost gauges. Hope this helps
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Seeing you live in Canada, I suggest you look at a different turbo system (unless you really want the Greddy). The Greddy turbo is smaller than other turbos, and won't be able to produce as much power as Drag or FMax kits. The reason why Greddy is so popular right now is because it is CARB approved. But since we have no emissions testing in Canada, you would just be spending more money on a smaller turbo.
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Turbo is higher maintanence is more harsh on your engine than a supercharger. Turbos run at higher boost and wear down your engine moreHowever turbos have the highest potential in boosting cars performance than superchargers. Supercharger is more for daily driving and the power is always there and doesnt need to spool up like a turbo. Supercharger is less harsh on your engine also. If you want every bit of power, turbo is the way to go. Youll need to keep in mind the other side components that go with forced induction mods. Youll be looking at upgraded fuel system, upgraded ignition system, boost controller/turbo timer if you go turbo, youll need one of those APEX VFC to monitor fuel and maybe some boost gauges. Hope this helps

i dont have turbo nor SC, but i still disagree with you on "turbo is higher maintenance" statement. go search on Forced Induction section about JRSC. as far as i'm concerned , thats the only SC u can get for gen5 and its NOT a maintenance-free system.
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i dont have turbo nor SC, but i still disagree with you on "turbo is higher maintenance" statement. go search on Forced Induction section about JRSC. as far as i'm concerned , thats the only SC u can get for gen5 and its NOT a maintenance-free system.
Yes I agree. A turbo setup that is properly tunned will be fine..the only real maintenance will be consistant oil changes and checking your lines etc. Just tune right and leave it at a modest boost level (in other words don't go boost happy) and you'll be set. Oh yeah and don't boost everytime you step on the pedal

A standalone etc won't really be neccessary unless you plan on boosting higher. You'll be ok with whatever fmu the kit gives u at the initial boost setting...I believe.

With higher boost comes more problems. This isn't only relative to turbo setups either. Look at the JRSC guys with 9psi pullies..not exactly problem free...
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alright, thats a big help guys.. so i guess it's just basically preference. It's an everyday driver, so i think Super Charge is my best buy.
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Remember, no form of FI is maintenance free...but I would have to agree that out of the 2 choices, the JRSC is more user friendly than a turbo setup...well from what I've read...

Either way good luck
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I thought they started emissions testing in Ontario/Toronto? Maybe I'm wrong. No testing here, that's for sure.

I was definately going to go JRSC, but the greddy kit looks really complete and most importantly, comes with extra injectors and intelligent fuel management. I suspect that the turbo maintenance thing might be overstated unless you're going to higher boost levels. I'm leery enough of 6psi with the stock pistons, so I don't think I'll be upping the boost or swapping pulleys!

I'd wait and see what the reviews are like on the greddy. If the install is pretty easy, the fuel management and larger injectors might make it a better kit with less hassles than the JR. Otoh, nobody's blown up an engine that has the JRSC yet, either.

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The Greddy turbo is smaller than other turbos, and won't be able to produce as much power as Drag or FMax kits. The reason why Greddy is so popular right now is because it is CARB approved.
I totally disagree with that. The Drag and FMAX uses the T3/T4E Turbo on their kit. However, do you ever get the A/R on those turbos? Some of the T3/T4E turbos flow about the same as Mitsubishi 18G Turbo. Greddy 18G Turbo is a high flow design modified by Trust Japan. I have seen this turbo gone over 400HP before on Lancer and other cars. The T3/T4E with low A/R has almost the same flow rate as the 18G. Plus, if you are running stock Internal part in your engine, it is really hard to compare the T3/T4E turbo and Greddy TD05-18GH performance at only 7-9psi. Also, According to Speedoption and Greddy, the TD05-18GH produce 65 extra HP on 7psi without Intercooler. Pretty impressive!!

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Drag turbo specs

B18: T04E/T3 54 STAGE 3 .63
B16: T04B/T3 SUPER V-72 .63
H22: T04B/T3 SUPER V STAGE 3 .63
H23: T04B/T3 SUPER V STAGE 3 .63
F22: T04B/T3 SUPER V STAGE 3 .63
F23: T04B/T3 SUPER V STAGE 3 .63
D16: T04B/T3 SUPER-72 .63
D15: T04B/T3 SUPER-72 .63
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Even if the Greddy kit doesnt have an enormous turbo, who cares....90% of us are not going to be making 450hp......I just want 13s or 12s....
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At first I was thinking getting JRSC over the turbos kits that were available for the Prleude. The Fmaxx and Drag kits just doesn't look that great in quality. I've seen many guys whose kits have more headaches then ever. Now when the Greddy kit came out. That change my mind, its street legal and gives you good amount of power. I've seen civics and GS-R's using those turbos for a long time. I know one guy that has 110K miles on his turbo. But keep in mind that is a mild level of boost. So much things to buy yet so little money.....
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Even if the Greddy kit doesnt have an enormous turbo, who cares....90% of us are not going to be making 450hp......I just want 13s or 12s....
I hope to be one of the 10% of us that test the limits of the Greddy kit.

I'll let you guys know the results in about....3-5 years
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Yeap, I will try to be in that 10% that try to make 400HP out of the Greddy Turbo Kit.

I will tell you guys the result in about a month!!!

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