What would be an ideal transmission for a 5th gen SS->5spd Swap? I know people have been swapping in H23's, H22a's, and the reg. H22a4. Im not really looking into the H22a's as it cost too much, but would a 5spd accord tranny keep up w/ the vtec? or is a short shifter needed? also how would the H23 do w/ 5th gen lude? Sorry if im wrong about some stuff, please correct if possible. thanks
I am still wondering what would be ideal for a stock h22a4 block? Not trying to drastic or anything here, and im also 17 so yes, money can be a problem and yes, i believe the swap is for me although i knw for a fact theres other alternatives than just getting an
H22a tranny...
I am still wondering what would be ideal for a stock h22a4 block? Not trying to drastic or anything here, and im also 17 so yes, money can be a problem and yes, i believe the swap is for me although i knw for a fact theres other alternatives than just getting an
H22a tranny...
Why do you want a non H22 transmission?
Why do you want to spend a few thousand on a 5spd swap and use the wrong transmission?
Sure you could use an F22 transmission or a 4th gen transmission or a multitude of others, but why... Why go to the trouble of a 5spd swap and attempt to do it on the cheap?
It would be cheapest to sell your car and buy a 5spd Prelude.
Why do you want a non H22 transmission?
Why do you want to spend a few thousand on a 5spd swap and use the wrong transmission?
Sure you could use an F22 transmission or a 4th gen transmission or a multitude of others, but why... Why go to the trouble of a 5spd swap and attempt to do it on the cheap?
It would be cheapest to sell your car and buy a 5spd Prelude.
No haha, you got me all wrong. I was just wondering why others use F22 trannys, H23's or H22a's opposed to just sticking with the H22a4 oringinal tran, yes im trying to find a 5th gen tran (non-sh), and no im pretty sure im not doing it that cheap, im wanting to buy all the good stuff a new clutch assembly and hopefully a fidanza flywheel etc, i was just wondering whats the easiest and most reliable way to do the swap with what tran. But i have my mind set on the H22a4 tran, as it is the oringinal one.
Also about selling my car, i'll pass, i love it and its hard to find a good lude w/stick thats not over 110k and +9k to buy. Also im doing the swap @ my school, in autotec class =) my teech is cool wit it thanks tho Solid!
How much time do you have to complete this project? You are going to need at least 15-20 hours, and thats if you already know what you need to do. You will need the tranny, the starter, the shift cables, the 5spd half shaft, 5 spd shifter base, the 5spd brake and clutch pedal assemblies. You will also need to drill some holes in your firewall for the clutch master cylinder. Its gonna cost you some coin, even if you find deals.
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Yea my teacher knows how to do all that stuff, but only thing he said its gonna take a while cuz we gotta learn what we're doing, not just do it ya knw? And for the parts, yea im expecting around 1000-1200 for the parts, labour is free. Sounds like a deal anyone?
It might be tough to do it for that cheap. These parts will nickel and dime you to death. I would use all new clutch hydraulics unless you like doing work twice.
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2008 - Nissan Titan LE - Tow / snapper holder
1998 - Nordic mist base - 5 speed swapped "daily beater" type S intake and K&N filter, koyo aluminum radiator
1986 - Mazda RX7 widebody - L92 500hp/550tq "race car"
1983 - Porsche 944 - "weekend / fun car" Weltmeister bushings, #220lb Weltmeister springs, Bilstein HD's F+R, '86 951 front and rear sways, stainless brake lines, Odyssey lightweight battery, low temp fan switch, Schnell SSK, sport seats //future LS1 swap//
Yea my teacher knows how to do all that stuff, but only thing he said its gonna take a while cuz we gotta learn what we're doing, not just do it ya knw? And for the parts, yea im expecting around 1000-1200 for the parts, labour is free. Sounds like a deal anyone?
$1200 for parts minus the transmission...maybe.
I bought a mixture of used and new parts for mine. It is going to be difficult to do the swap on the cheap.
Yea my teacher knows how to do all that stuff, but only thing he said its gonna take a while cuz we gotta learn what we're doing, not just do it ya knw? And for the parts, yea im expecting around 1000-1200 for the parts, labour is free. Sounds like a deal anyone?
Well if you are both learning, try a few weeks
You will be ordering parts that you need or break along the way.
Everyone I've talked would rather just sell car and buy a 5spd.
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Autotec teacher said about 2 weeks working 1 hour a day we should be done, but just wondering, what parts are better new than used? I'm buying new flywheel, clutch assembly, and new shifter assembly. Anything else better to buy new? Also i was looking for new clutch hydralics on ebay, going for bout $75-$150 is that a decent/average price? thanks guys.
Autotec teacher said about 2 weeks working 1 hour a day we should be done, but just wondering, what parts are better new than used? I'm buying new flywheel, clutch assembly, and new shifter assembly. Anything else better to buy new? Also i was looking for new clutch hydralics on ebay, going for bout $75-$150 is that a decent/average price? thanks guys.
I don't think that's enough time. It took me about 6 days, 5 hours per day taking my time. I also pulled the engine out but you don't have to. I would try to squeeze in more time than that.
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1998 - Nordic mist base - 5 speed swapped "daily beater" type S intake and K&N filter, koyo aluminum radiator
1986 - Mazda RX7 widebody - L92 500hp/550tq "race car"
1983 - Porsche 944 - "weekend / fun car" Weltmeister bushings, #220lb Weltmeister springs, Bilstein HD's F+R, '86 951 front and rear sways, stainless brake lines, Odyssey lightweight battery, low temp fan switch, Schnell SSK, sport seats //future LS1 swap//
I got a spare USDM H22a4 5pd tranny from my 01 base prelude I could ship ya. I swapped it for an LSD transmission. PM me if your interested. 700+ shippin
Needs to be new
Shift cables
Master cylinder
Slave cylinder
Hydraulic lines
Half-shaft
Sorry, but aren't most of these items suppose/should be attached to the tranny when purchasing? And if they are, is it still better to replace them with new ones regardless of the tranny's low/high mileage? Also, time isn't much importance to me as im getting the job done free So im assuming it might be give or take 3 weeks. Thanks everyone.
Needs to be new
Shift cables
Master cylinder
Slave cylinder
Hydraulic lines
Half-shaft
Sorry, but aren't most of these items suppose/should be attached to the tranny when purchasing? And if they are, is it still better to replace them with new ones regardless of the tranny's low/high mileage? Also, time isn't much importance to me as im getting the job done free So im assuming it might be give or take 3 weeks. Thanks everyone.
Not necessarily. Your transmission is going to be from a junkyard or someones garage. The slave and lines are not going to be in usable condition.
Not necessarily. Your transmission is going to be from a junkyard or someones garage. The slave and lines are not going to be in usable condition.
Cool sounds good, i asked my autotech teech too, he said same thing pretty much. Thanks Solid, also i was just wondering how much did it cost you excluding labour and what parts did you have used and/or new? Thanks again.
Cool sounds good, i asked my autotech teech too, he said same thing pretty much. Thanks Solid, also i was just wondering how much did it cost you excluding labour and what parts did you have used and/or new? Thanks again.
All the items I listed as "needing" to be new. Plus some others I bought new. Really too much to list off the top of my head.
That should give you a pretty good idea, but some things are missing. We found out the hard way that there is more to the swap than shown. Even the subframe is different on the 5spd cars, so the shift cables will be slightly kinked unless you find a 5spd one.
Also the pedal uses a re-enforcement bracket, this isn't on AT cars, and isn't for sale anywhere. It is a spot welded part of the chassis. You will need to fab one or simply cut one off a donor car. Remember to use a spacer plate of some kind on the firewall where the master and pedal meet. On the 5th gen it there is lots of space between the master and pedal arm. This is pretty important when your trying to adjust engagement.
There is more, plenty more. The swap was probably 3 years ago, and a dark time in my life . You'd have to ask me some specific stuff for me to remember.
Sounds like work! Was it difficult for you? Just wondering, why do some people say its simply bolt on's then hard part is clutch? Also how much do u 'believe' you spent on the swap? Thanks again.
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So im assuming it might be give or take 3 weeks. Thanks everyone.
. You'd have to ask me some specific stuff for me to remember.
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