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Old 07-08-2002, 02:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Things to look for when buying a used 5th gen?

The topic pretty much says it all.

I looked through the FAQ, but didn't find much. I'm sure this topic has been covered but any assistance is appreciated.

So, what are the major areas of possible concern when buying a used 5G?
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5-speed. I would buy a base unless you auto cross. search for base vs. sh model to find more info on the differences between the two. But no matter what model, get a 5-speed.
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early cars are the most affordable, obviously. But they have the timing tensioner problem. Make sure that's been updated.

And all Ludes rings are weak---oil burning.
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Always check to see if the synchros are messed up... grindage is NOT GOOD.

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Oh, I know about the differences between the base and SH, I was thinking more along the lines of common (mechanical) problems that Lude owners have encountered along the way that should be addressed to the current owner of the car.

I was hoping maybe someone would have put together a website with such information...
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make sure the tranny feels strong.. no grinding ect..

I would also check and see what kind of mods the car had if any, and maybe get a compression test
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yes, tranny check is huge!
profile the previous owner and see if they would have driven the car hard or pamper it. you don't want to buy it, have the tranny crap out because it has been driven rough for "x" number of years. same with flywheel and clutch. those can be expensive little propositions.
and as always, CARFAX that mutha'!
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what are you guys talking about? The tranny (5spd) is the one thing Honda knows how to build. it's very robust!

I'd say there are alot of inexperienced sick drivers out there if theres a tranny problem.

i have 188,000 miles and not a peep.
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Jus trust us when we say there is a problem with the 5spd tranny on the 5th gen. Or do a search and find out more. Cause a tranny replacement at 12,000 miles is not a good thing.
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Jus trust us when we say there is a problem with the 5spd tranny on the 5th gen. Or do a search and find out more. Cause a tranny replacement at 12,000 miles is not a good thing.
A tranny replacement at 12,000 miles is FREE you moron.

You can't drive. Either that or you bought your car used.
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what are you guys talking about? The tranny (5spd) is the one thing Honda knows how to build. it's very robust!

I'd say there are alot of inexperienced sick drivers out there if theres a tranny problem.

i have 188,000 miles and not a peep.
hey...pass me some of that weed you're smoking...

heh j/k, maybe you just have a fluke..but as for the rest of us we've all had the same problems and majority rules i guess...

make sure you check the alignment too...iono it's a minor thing i guess but it's annoying...also check to make sure the person didn't mod it earlier and had removed the mods or if the car is currently modded...just check everything, easy way...check to see if the inner walls of the tire are worn for a sure sign that it was once lowered for example
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A tranny replacement at 12,000 miles is FREE you moron.

You can't drive. Either that or you bought your car used.
woa, settle down.... 5th gen trannys arent that great, honda trannys in general arent that great. Why do you think people are getting stuck out of 1st gear and reverse, and why is there so much grinding going into 5th? Why in the winter can i hardley get from 1st to 2nd?

and yeah i have a 5spd too

The syncros suck
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woa, settle down.... 5th gen trannys arent that great, honda trannys in general arent that great. Why do you think people are getting stuck out of 1st gear and reverse, and why is there so much grinding going into 5th? Why in the winter can i hardley get from 1st to 2nd?

and yeah i have a 5spd too

The syncros suck
Sorry for the loss of control. But it seems that the tranny, at least in my case, is the only thing Honda did right!
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Always check to see if the synchros are messed up... grindage is NOT GOOD.

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yes. drive the car cold and shift around at all sorts of different RPMs. first gear will be hard/impossible to get into but the rest should be smooth.
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Basically Common Issues

1) Transmission Issues: Check to see if the transmission has ever been replaced. This goes for the SS Auto (especially) and the 5 speed. The 1997-2000 Prelude have been known to have 5 speed syncronizer issues occationally, and there is a TSB for repair of the syncros.

2) Shock-Knock TSB issues. Most commonly in cold weather the rear shocks will knock or bang on some Preludes. It will happen to a lesser extent in warm weather.

3) Has the timing belt been replaced every 60,000 miles? Including the tensioner and water pump! Ask for service reciepts.

4) Compression Tests. If the values are off, buy another Prelude.

5) Fluids:

Check the oil. If it's pitch black, then it's not being changed regularly. If the car has >50000 miles, with black oil, don't buy it.

ATF: Smell the transmission fluid (ATF) and check that it is a light red color. If it is not, then do not buy the car, it hasn't been taken care of. The transfluid should have been replaced every 15,000 to 30,000 miles.

Power Steering: Look at the fluid and see if it's black. If it is, change the fluid when you buy it.

Really, nothing else seems to go bad on a Preludes...

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Re: Basically Common Issues

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1) Transmission Issues: Check to see if the transmission has ever been replaced. This goes for the SS Auto (especially) and the 5 speed. The 1997-2000 Prelude have been known to have 5 speed syncronizer issues occationally, and there is a TSB for repair of the syncros.

2) Shock-Knock TSB issues. Most commonly in cold weather the rear shocks will knock or bang on some Preludes. It will happen to a lesser extent in warm weather.

3) Has the timing belt been replaced every 60,000 miles? Including the tensioner and water pump! Ask for service reciepts.

4) Compression Tests. If the values are off, buy another Prelude.

5) Fluids:

Check the oil. If it's pitch black, then it's not being changed regularly. If the car has >50000 miles, with black oil, don't buy it.

ATF: Smell the transmission fluid (ATF) and check that it is a light red color. If it is not, then do not buy the car, it hasn't been taken care of. The transfluid should have been replaced every 15,000 to 30,000 miles.

Power Steering: Look at the fluid and see if it's black. If it is, change the fluid when you buy it.

Really, nothing else seems to go bad on a Preludes...

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thanks for your help guys. I'm gonna print out this page and take it with me
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check some of the more obvious stuff, make sure they're not selling u a base model and claming it's a type-SH
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If you are getting an SS then I sugest spending a good deal of time listening to the shift. take it out cold and listen carefully as it is put into reverse be aware of any clunking sounds put it through Neutral a few times from drive to reverse and lisen for those clunks not just a normal gear engage sound but a bang.

also when driving in auto mode watch out for a sloppy shift from first to second.

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also check to make sure the person didn't mod it earlier and had removed the mods or if the car is currently modded...just check everything, easy way...check to see if the inner walls of the tire are worn for a sure sign that it was once lowered for example
exactly.... this is one of the only things i will be checking when trading in my ss for a 5speed.....

the easiest way to tell is by checking all bolts on header/exhaust and bolts, hoses, and clamps on intake..... you can easily tell when a bolt has been either removed and/or retightened and when hoses and clamps have been messed with......
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