Well, I had my Tein SS coil overs installed today. At the standard damper setting they actually ride pretty firm. I'd say they're pretty close to my Koni's with neuspeed race springs. I actually wanted the HAs, but modacar.com messed up and stuff and I ended up with the SS. Surprisingly though, I like the SS coil overs. Now i just need to find someone with teins for a civic/integra that wants to buy some pillowball mounts