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Old 05-26-2011, 07:43 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Thanks for the offer bouckaroo, I'll let you know in the next day or two. The guy I bought the starter off of said it was from a 5spd 5th gen lude but who knows, maybe its from a civic or something. I'll pull it out again tomorrow and check the part number.
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Old 05-28-2011, 04:49 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Well the starter's part number, or what I assume to be the part number is SM-42227. there's P5M on the upper right of the sticker. Can anyone help me makes heads or tails out of this?
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Old 05-28-2011, 05:24 PM   #23 (permalink)
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mine is 44223, i have a 4th gen tranny, no idea where the starter came from. have another 4th gen lsd tranny but it has a bosch starter
and i have a sh tranny which is also 44223.
no idea what yours means (not much help at all i guess).
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Old 05-28-2011, 07:46 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Actually that was helpful, I searched on Majestic Honda, 44223 is from a 5spd 5th gen, mine is not from any USDM 4th or 5th gen it seems.

Bouckaroo, That starters from a 5th gen right? If so how much do you want for it?
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Old 05-29-2011, 04:14 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I have both fifth and fourth gen starters. For you man, tell you what, when i gt home from work in another week i will jsut send it to you in good faith, just pay the hsippping (i iwll make it greyhound COD or ups COD). Let me know.
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Old 05-29-2011, 08:40 PM   #27 (permalink)
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hey man i just ran your serial numebr through the internets and it came up as a 1998 5speed starter. I dont know what to think now.


1998 HONDA PRELUDE VTEC STARTER MOTOR (MITSUBA) - Original Honda Parts from Lings Honda v1.01


ok that sm 422227, is not the part numebr it is the serial/model number of the starter. It says that this model of starter was available ont he VTI preludes , so audm and edm, im a pm about something here.

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hmmm, I'm going to try to research it further but can anyone confirm that AUDM and EDM starters are exactly identical to USDM ones?
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And I read on another forum that fidanza made some flywheels meant to be used with JDM starters with the same part number. Perhaps That's my problem, it seems kind of improbable but I figure it could be worth one last effort before having to drop the trans. Does anyone know where I could acquire a JDM starter (short of buying a transmission with it on), I'm not having much luck tracking one down.
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i have one, it is off of a fourth gen jdm h22a equipped 1995 prelude.
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You pull the trans off yet?
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No not yet. I'm gonna try this one last thing before I embark on the unpleasantness of removing the transmission.
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oh cmoon, tearing the trans out isnt so bad....
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Well when I put the new transmission in it was while I had the whole motor out. So I guess I don't have an opinion on just dropping the trans yet. It just looks like it's going to be a pain. Is it possible to pull the transmission out of the engine bay, Like from above? Or does it have to be dropped?
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No it has top be dropped. What you do is remove battery and tray, intake, disconnect slave cylinder from trans, starter. Unbolt the top trans bolt that has the clitch line mount bracket on it, dissconecct the shift linkage lines. Undo the front suspension(both sides), remove the axels. Once you have the axels out and the linkages off and the other wires(starter, vss,reverse switch ect..) undone, you then remove the cross brace under the trans. Place jack under engine. Undo the front engine mount and rest engine on jack.Undo the rear transmission mount. Then undo the passenger side transmission mount from the bracket holding it on the trans. Then Remove the mount (the one tha attaches to teh car above the trans on the passenegr side) completly and take out the trans mount bracket. Once this is done you can move onto removing the transmission housing bolts. Once these bolts are out you can then proceed to lower the jack (just a bout an inch and half maybe two inches) so the engine drops towards passenger side. Once this is done you then need to wrestle the trans off of the engine and then give it a twist counter clockwise so that the shifterlinkage actuators clear the frame and then once that is done the trans drops right out(i usually drop it from the top, like hold on to the trans form teh top of the car and then gently lower it to the floor, i fyou have two people one under the car is great and one above to help take the weight off; for soem reason everytime i need to pull my trans everyone i nkwo is busy, so i have jsut got use to doing it by myself). After you take it out, jack the engine back up to where it needs to be until you are ready to reinstall the trans.

Now, it may be possible i missed a step here, but this is jsut off the top of my head so forgive me if there is somehting else that needs to be done.

Anyway, the install is the revers of this howevr getting it back in is a pita and you will need someone else to help you as one personm needs to be under the car to rotate the trans so it will fit back in, and then the other person can operate teh lifting device so that the below person isnt struggling trying to lift and can focus on getting the twist right so it will go in.

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Thanks for the walk through.
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