im thinking about lowering my prelude... idk if i realllly wanna but it crossed my mind... it would be small, if any... but i was wonderin.
let's say i get a 1.25 or 1.5 drop on some springs, would i need a camber corrections kit, if so, where is a good place to look at and what should i look for.
how bad is the camber on your lowered prelude if you have a similar drop?
im thinking about lowering my prelude... idk if i realllly wanna but it crossed my mind... it would be small, if any... but i was wonderin.
let's say i get a 1.25 or 1.5 drop on some springs, would i need a camber corrections kit, if so, where is a good place to look at and what should i look for.
how bad is the camber on your lowered prelude if you have a similar drop?
I don't believe preludes have any camber adjustment by factory or not. Regardless, the BIGGEST issue when lowering the car is toe in or out. Nothing will eat tires faster than an over positive or negative toe. Most cars have a slight toe in (ie you don't want completely straight, you want a slight toe in.
Go get your alightment done after dropping ,and make sure the toe is set correctly, and you won't go through tires insanely fast. I remember my brother dropped his integra, didn't put on an alignment right away, and ate through this 2 front tires within a month. He has some nasty toe out tho.
I don't believe preludes have any camber adjustment by factory or not. Regardless, the BIGGEST issue when lowering the car is toe in or out. Nothing will eat tires faster than an over positive or negative toe. Most cars have a slight toe in (ie you don't want completely straight, you want a slight toe in.
Go get your alightment done after dropping ,and make sure the toe is set correctly, and you won't go through tires insanely fast. I remember my brother dropped his integra, didn't put on an alignment right away, and ate through this 2 front tires within a month. He has some nasty toe out tho.
yeah, see with my del sol i slammed it 3 inches and had slight negative camber, (that couldnt be fixed by an alignment) and it ate tires in 4 months...
i know that preludes have a heavier, and more advanced suspension than the del sol so i was wondering what would i need to get my toe/camber right...
oh yeah, to sum it up... im trying to get as close to stock as possible... i dont want horrible tire wear or anything like that... so hopefully someone with a similar suspension mod will help, thanks
If they're available for 4th gens, I'd go Tein H-tech (3/4" drop), and adjustable shocks. The H-tech (again for 5th gen models) have the spring rate closest to stock spring ratings out of all of the progressive coil springs. On my 5th gen, I still needed camber kits for even such a small drop.
If they're available for 4th gens, I'd go Tein H-tech (3/4" drop), and adjustable shocks. The H-tech (again for 5th gen models) have the spring rate closest to stock spring ratings out of all of the progressive coil springs. On my 5th gen, I still needed camber kits for even such a small drop.
really? how much was the kit. was it just for the front?? and also where did you get the camber kit?
I pressed out the upper front ball-joints and replaced them with adjustable pieces that allow for adjustment in either a negative or positive fashion. I forget how much they cost. I believe I purchased them from rockauto.com. The rears I have yet to purchase/install. I believe the only adjustment solution is to replace the upper control arm mounts with adjustable pieces. I've heard people say (I think) that sometimes, depending on the drop, these pieces can be intrusive to suspension movement @ full compression and hit the inner fender.
So i have h&r sport springs and KYB AGX shocks and im goin to go ahead and tell you that you will need a camber kit. Mine is off so bad my last set of BFG tires went about 8 months then they were to the threads. I took my car to the alignment shop right after i did the mods and the toe was fine but i had alot of negative camber. My actual reading for the front was -1.9 (R) and -1.7 (L). The rear was -2.0 (R) and -2.1 (L). Stock for the front calls for -1.0 to 1.0 degree and rear should be -1.8 to .3 degree and the tech said that you want to be as close to the middle of what stock specs call for as possible.
So i have h&r sport springs and KYB AGX shocks and im goin to go ahead and tell you that you will need a camber kit. Mine is off so bad my last set of BFG tires went about 8 months then they were to the threads. I took my car to the alignment shop right after i did the mods and the toe was fine but i had alot of negative camber. My actual reading for the front was -1.9 (R) and -1.7 (L). The rear was -2.0 (R) and -2.1 (L). Stock for the front calls for -1.0 to 1.0 degree and rear should be -1.8 to .3 degree and the tech said that you want to be as close to the middle of what stock specs call for as possible.
so where about is a good place for camber kit, and whats a fair price to pay?
rockauto.com
Front: Moog +1 to -1 adjustable upper ball-joint: $65.79 (one per side) (2 per vehicle)
Rear: beck/arnley adjustable camber kit: regular $80.79 per side (currently one left on closeout @ $32.79)
or
Rear: Moog +1 to -1 adjustable upper ball-joint: $65.79 (one per side) (2 per vehicle)
rockauto.com
Front: Moog +1 to -1 adjustable upper ball-joint: $65.79 (one per side) (2 per vehicle)
Rear: beck/arnley adjustable camber kit: regular $80.79 per side (currently one left on closeout @ $32.79)
or
Rear: Moog +1 to -1 adjustable upper ball-joint: $65.79 (one per side) (2 per vehicle)
are those fair prices???
cause im plannin on a small lowering job here in the near future
edit: I thought you had a 4gen, but since the 5th gen and 4th gen suspensions are nearly identical, I doubt the price and/or parts should be any different.
So i have h&r sport springs and KYB AGX shocks and im goin to go ahead and tell you that you will need a camber kit. Mine is off so bad my last set of BFG tires went about 8 months then they were to the threads. I took my car to the alignment shop right after i did the mods and the toe was fine but i had alot of negative camber. My actual reading for the front was -1.9 (R) and -1.7 (L). The rear was -2.0 (R) and -2.1 (L). Stock for the front calls for -1.0 to 1.0 degree and rear should be -1.8 to .3 degree and the tech said that you want to be as close to the middle of what stock specs call for as possible.
I agree in saying the toe will be the biggest factor in your tires getting eaten. Excessive neg camber will cause uneven tire wear but shouldn't drastically reduce thier life. As for camber kits, I would go with an ingalls, they're engineered quite well and most others would recommend them. IMO if you're looking for better handling, I would get stiffer struts. I have KYB adjustables riding on stock springs and there's already a big difference. Next would be upper strut bars and lower tie bars etc, then look at a beefier rear sway bar to help with your understeer. I plan on getting some GC coilovers but even then I won't lower more than 3/4" or so. If you ever really look into suspension you'll find that the double wishbone suspension (such as on our Preludes) is some of the best engineered out there. Most engineers say that lowering too much actually negates your effort because it will throw off the balance of the setup. Hope this helps...
I agree in saying the toe will be the biggest factor in your tires getting eaten. Excessive neg camber will cause uneven tire wear but shouldn't drastically reduce thier life. As for camber kits, I would go with an ingalls, they're engineered quite well and most others would recommend them. IMO if you're looking for better handling, I would get stiffer struts. I have KYB adjustables riding on stock springs and there's already a big difference. Next would be upper strut bars and lower tie bars etc, then look at a beefier rear sway bar to help with your understeer. I plan on getting some GC coilovers but even then I won't lower more than 3/4" or so. If you ever really look into suspension you'll find that the double wishbone suspension (such as on our Preludes) is some of the best engineered out there. Most engineers say that lowering too much actually negates your effort because it will throw off the balance of the setup. Hope this helps...
There was an awesome camber kit comparison way back in the early days of the site (<2002). Do a search for it and you should find something. I was running the SPC balljoints, and I liked them very much.
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I would say your best choices are Ingalls, SPC, and Progressive. Try to stear clear of suspension parts you have heard nothing about because if something goes wrong there then it could be really bad news and you could spend more in the long run. SPC has the best build quality in my opinion, but can cause some clearance issues due to the fact that it moves the comtrol arm forward. I think that I am going to end up going with the Ingalls kit, I found it here Import Horizon Your Source For AEM, DC Sports, Comptech, Clutch Masters, Ingalls, Fidanza and more Brand Named Parts!. If anyone knows where I can get this kit for cheaper let me know.
I have the Tein H Tech springs on right now. The ride is very comfortable, but the drop is barely lower than stock. It looks pretty much stock, actually. I kind of wished I went lower. The good thing is that you'll probably get negligible camber problems with such a tiny drop.
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