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Old 04-01-2005, 12:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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start problems (my car is dying)

well guys, my car is finally dying on me.

last night i went to start up my car and it didn't start. i automatically assumed it was the battery so my friend came over this morning to help me jump start it but it still wouldn't start.

we thought the battery was totally dead until we noticed that EVERYTHING worked fine.....windows rowed up fine, stereo worked fine, the door "beeps" when we leave it open etc etc...so we've come to the conclusion that the battery is not dead.

the motor cranks but still nothing

anyone know whats up? is it something i'll need to get towed to a shop or what blehh this sucks
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Altenator?
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Old 04-01-2005, 12:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Car doesn't need the alternator to run, it can go off the battery for a couple days.

When's the last time you got new plugs & wires? Cap & rotor? Check to see if you have fuel pressure.
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Old 04-01-2005, 01:02 PM   #4 (permalink)
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When's the last time you got new plugs & wires? Cap & rotor? Check to see if you have fuel pressure.
i honestly don't know...one of my friends is coming over in a little bit to check it out though
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Old 04-01-2005, 01:31 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Yeah it probably needs a tune-up.. how many miles u have now Jon? i have 128k and still running strong.. My car has started everyday I have had it.. I had the tune-up done at 78k...
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Car doesn't need the alternator to run, it can go off the battery for a couple days.

When's the last time you got new plugs & wires? Cap & rotor? Check to see if you have fuel pressure.
^ what he said.

Was it a progressive problem or did it just happen all of a sudden?
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The same thing happened to me. Tried jump starting it first didn't work. Windows still worked, stereo everything. Bought a new battery and it started right up. Try a new battery before you start replacing things like the alternator.
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Old 04-01-2005, 03:26 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Was it a progressive problem or did it just happen all of a sudden?
it STOPPED starting all of the sudden (i was at ralph's, then came back up to my apartment, parked, then tried to start up again and i died)

wanna come take a look chris?
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Car doesn't need the alternator to run, it can go off the battery for a couple days.

When's the last time you got new plugs & wires? Cap & rotor? Check to see if you have fuel pressure.
yeah check these as well
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battery would be first guess... since the voltage might be too low to start the car. 2nd...do a tune up or check the starter.
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is this something i can check myself? or do i have to get it towed somewhere?
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Old 04-01-2005, 04:24 PM   #12 (permalink)
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You just said it suddenly started. Hm? Did you have the Ignition recall done perchance? To test the battery take it to Autozone. If you can get the car there they can check the battery and Alternator too. The voltage on the battery terminals should be 12.6 - 13.2 with the engine off and 14.4 running.
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You just said it suddenly started. Hm? Did you have the Ignition recall done perchance? To test the battery take it to Autozone. If you can get the car there they can check the battery and Alternator too. The voltage on the battery terminals should be 12.6 - 13.2 with the engine off and 14.4 running.
nah it just suddenly STOPPED starting, it hasn't started for almost a day now and yes, i did the ignition recall
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You just said it suddenly started. Hm? Did you have the Ignition recall done perchance? To test the battery take it to Autozone. If you can get the car there they can check the battery and Alternator too. The voltage on the battery terminals should be 12.6 - 13.2 with the engine off and 14.4 running.
I think he meant the problem of it NOT starting just suddently stopped. That threw me for a loop too.
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oh whoops lemme fix that
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start with the basics. turn the key to ON and listen in the trunk for the fuel pump to click on. if you hear a click go to the fuel rail and check for pressure. if all that is good than you have to check for spark. take a spark plug wire out and put it next to the engine and crank it (try resting it and not physical holding it, 25,000+ volts hurt a lot, trust me). if you see a spark then you are getting air and fuel and its something else. do these things first and let me know how everything checks out.
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well brian (kb798) came over today and we got my stupid ass car to start by roll starting it so its at the dealership getting worked on at the moment, hopefully they don't ream me in the arse. thanks for all the help guys
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did you have a crank/no start condition? no crank/no start? if you have no crank it was probally your starter or something on that line.
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it was barely cranking, i could see the pulleys and cams start to turn but then it'd just die out
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get your starter tested.....that may be it, or hook up a voltimeter.....
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