SS Luders: How do you do the rev blip downshift? - Honda Prelude Forum

sk515 · 02-23-2002, 07:38 PM

ok im just not exactly clear how it works ive been trying it but not sure if im doing it right... how much do you blip the gas? and do you down shift after you blip or right when you blip?

DY101 i think you know how to do it cos it was in your N1 video

moebius · 02-23-2002, 11:21 PM

what is a rev blip downshift?

sk515 · 02-23-2002, 11:24 PM

its like you are supposed to step on the gas pedal to get the revs higher then downshifting... i think its like rev matching or something... can someone shed some light on this subject?

99prelude · 02-24-2002, 12:21 AM

This is DYI01.

Anyways. Downshift then blip the gas. You have to get the timing down perfect or it will jerk. So just practice.

sk515 · 02-24-2002, 12:24 AM

what up,

ok i see now... would you say its rather difficult to get it right?

KulSecHskY · 02-24-2002, 01:16 AM

Why would you do this when your in a automatic?

sk515 · 02-24-2002, 01:34 AM

i remember someone saying its better for the transmission... other than that i have no idea. DY101 you have a good reason?

Lewd Lude · 02-24-2002, 05:03 AM

paractice makes perfect...

TCB007 · 02-25-2002, 06:40 AM

..hey this is what I heard too. someone reply! I've tried doing this but it ended up being more jerky than my previous driving style

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Originally posted by sk515
i remember someone saying its better for the transmission... other than that i have no idea. DY101 you have a good reason?

PreludeSSwhite · 02-25-2002, 08:34 AM

Think of it this way. If your going a certain speed in 3rd at say 4000 RPM, it would take maybe 5800 RPM to do it in 2nd (just for instance). You want to match the 5800 before you go to 2nd to not cause lag and get a smoother transition.
Just like dropping a gear in a standard without pedal, you'll get a jerk and slow down. Fine if that's what you want in a 5 speed, but just stress on an auto.

think there was a detailed discussion on this before, search for thread.

soloLude · 02-25-2002, 10:47 AM

i dont even know how to explain it hehe. but to downshift and slow down, downshift and tap the gas a bit, right before the car begins to slope down to potentially slow down. if you are downshifting to speed up, its about a 2 second lag time between gears (if your foot is on the gas and your downshifting), so downshift and gas like your going to slow down, but dont floor it yet. wait till your able to hold it at that RPM, and then floor it. the SS usually has a bad lag if you downshift and floor it right away. but if your foot is on the brakes while you downshift, the lag time between gears will decrease to less than a second, instead of the 2 seconds it takes to upshift. hope that helps

Kyn · 02-25-2002, 11:57 AM

I'm sorry but I still don't get it... the gear never disengages so I don't know how you can possibly bring the RPM up before it down shifts...

sk515 · 02-25-2002, 05:42 PM

yeah.. im a little confused as well.

soloLude · 02-25-2002, 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by Kyn
I'm sorry but I still don't get it... the gear never disengages so I don't know how you can possibly bring the RPM up before it down shifts...

the RPMS dont go up before you downshift. juss downshift with your foot steadily on the gas, and after you downshift, apply a bit more pressure on the gas and it should even out the car "rev match." i dont know sorry guys...i can do it kinda hard to explain

Flavour · 02-25-2002, 07:38 PM

who knew sportshift was so complicated...

kenchan · 02-25-2002, 10:39 PM

nono, heel/toe and double clutching on a MT is much more complicated than a ss with blip throttle.

there is a wide range of blip amount, so you will need to experiment with the amount...especially when you brake and blip at the same time there is more variations you need to memorize.

easist to blip is from 4th to 3rd. it gets harder when you blip from 3 to 2 especially when you brake with it. it just takes practice. if you are under 30mph, it is better not to blip because the tranny is already rev matched with the wheels. i even take it down to 2 to 1 on those sharp turns.

my downshifts are super smooth, like when I nail a perfect heel/toe on my MT car.

screamer5300 · 02-25-2002, 10:51 PM

YEah, why you would want to do that with SS? It's a hydralically controlled clutch that uses sophisticated map sensor to output whatever you input depend on how you're driving. The SS on prelude is actually a lot more sophicated than porche SS. It has more maps, so it could respond better. YOu double clutch on manual because it puts less stress on the syncro mesh. But SS doesn't have to be concerned with syncro mesh, because it's already taken cared of. Dont' do it, it might **** up your map sensor and **** up your hydralics.

Miamy Luder · 02-25-2002, 10:52 PM

just a word of really friendly advice...
Most of the time, drive an SS like you drive any auto and don't expect it to be as direct as a 5spd... it's very fragile already...

I find it smoothier if I keep the gas at the same level when i really have to downshift for power... and then floor it only when the lower gear has engaged... dont' jerk it, the torque converter can never be as direct as the manu clutch......

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screamer5300 · 02-25-2002, 10:56 PM

...But if you must do it, (i had 98 SS prelude before my 2001 MT prelude) there is a second after you downshift for you to blip the throttle, sort of like automatic nuetral mode. You clip the throttle then. You just have to feel that second before the hydralic clutch engages. It's NOT AT ALL like double clutching. Personally I rather break a little before downshifting on SS, then quickly throttle hard. It works somewhat, but the whole point of SS is that you don't have to double clutch or blip the throttle(samething.).,

khilgers · 02-26-2002, 12:05 AM

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Originally posted by Flavour
who knew sportshift was so complicated...

they can be a little tricky at times