I believe on the Neuspeed Race Kit, the front spring rate is higher. I called and asked one of the reps, but I don't remember the exact number. 415 sounds right...but I'm not for sure.
The drop, I do know...though. It is 2.5" in the front and 2.0" in the rear.
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1991 CRX SiR
1991 Civic Wagon RT4WD
Hey guys,
searched...couldn't really find a direct answer to this question. What is spring rate exactly? Is it the amount of resistance that the spring has when force is applied to it? Also what exactly is happening when you adjust your damper for more stiffness? And the last question...if you have a stiff spring rate can it be compensated for by lowering the setting on your dampers? I guess if you set them too low, you'll blow them right...because they won't have enough "damping force"to rebound the high spring rate.
Thanks guys and gals,
-Greg P
spring rates are basicly the amount of force it takes to compress the spring a certin distance (pound-force/inch , kilogram-force/millimeter)
when you are adjusting dampning you are changing the size of little orifices that allow gas or oil (depending on what kind of shocks they are) to pass through from one chamber to the other (bigger holes = less resistance = softer ride)
and im not sure what exactly you mean by compensating for the high spring rate with lower dampner settings...do you mean you don't want the spring so stiff?? if so then no...
ya same as me, when i baught mine i told them i wanted the stiffer spring rate, at the time they offered the standard and then the stiffer one, it took me like 4 months to get mine from tein japan LOL..
"The key to the retention of ride quality while substantially improving handling lies in the ratio of spring to damper stiffness. Unlike Teins or other high rate spring setups, the Mugen suspension improves performance by dramatically stiffening shock valving, rather than sending spring rates into tooth rattling territory. The result is a ride and handling combination that is evocative of a factory sport suspension. (Think M3.) "
Man my cars not tooth rattling territory LOL, its very confortable ride, if ur wanting more stay oem or get a cady. the Tein will own mugen, like my HAs its fully adjustable, lowering a car is good for a few things, like lower center of gravity, and weight control. if u usually only drive the car without anyone in the car u can get it setup, weight control will make or break u, i mean two cars and have the same setup but the suspention on one is not tuned and the other is, who do u think will win? theres a place here right outside orlando thats a full performance race shop and i took it there and sat in my car on this scale thing and they adjusted my shocks and setup my suspention, but now that i got the anti sways and spoon front bar and the exhaust and the sub in the trunk i have to take it back. i just think the sping shock combo is a cheap quick performance thing, i look at it like getting a hondata Vs buying one of the spoon ecus on ebay, the hondata will be tuned for ur car vs the spoon ecu which is a basic thing will not give u max perfomance and might now go well with other mods.
the mugen is ok so the guy that likes a oem ride but wants the mugen bling bling and wants a little bit of handleing, but once u get that and spend that much youll be wanting more?? its like buying a motorcycle youll get tired of it real quick and want something faster.
Also what exactly is happening when you adjust your damper for more stiffness? And the last question...if you have a stiff spring rate can it be compensated for by lowering the setting on your dampers? I guess if you set them too low, you'll blow them right...because they won't have enough "damping force"to rebound the high spring rate.
Thanks guys and gals,
-Greg P
See XSm's post for the explanation of spring rate.
The damper's job is basically to stop the suspension from bouncing up and down when you hit a bump or some other disturbance. Without a damper or shock absorber, the spring in the suspension would cause the car to bounce up and down whenever you hit a bump, and it would not stop until the friction in the suspension finally made it stop (it might go on ten or twenty cycles). The damper has to have enough internal power, or stiffness, to stop the motion of the spring. So for higher rate springs, you need "stiffer" dampers. Adjustable dampers let you tone down the damping rate some for a better ride (just a little bounce) or stiffen it for no bounce at all.
NOTE TO EVERYONE: if you know the specs of any springs or coilovers I did not cover, or know any of the information I left blank, please post up and I will update the original post!! Thanks.
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2009 Mazdaspeed3 | 1995 Miata | 1999 Crystal Blue Base - bought 6/13/02, sold 3/11/09
1. You posted in a dead thread. Most of the people who posted in it aren't even active anymore. Make your own thread.
2. The wording of your question doesn't begin to make sense. "I have a question and I finnd it anywhere" lolwut?
I meant I have a question and I cant find the answer anywhere. Just in case people tell me to search.
And, yes it is an old thread, but its a sticky, it should remain with updated info for newbs like me dont have to search around a whole bunch of threads, they can just find all answers here.
edit- Actually, its not a sticky, but it should be since it has alot of info people would be trying to look for when investing in new suspension.
Those are relatively new. However, I think they are very close to the Megan/Ksport designs. You will have to email the seller/manufacturer and ask them.
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