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Old 09-23-2009, 02:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Siphoning Gas

Can I siphon gas out of my 2000 Prelude, or does it have a rollover valve to prevent me from doing so? I know there's a drain plug, but I don't happen to have a 15 gallon gas can lying around handy, so I'll need to go the old fashioned route.
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Can I siphon gas out of my 2000 Prelude, or does it have a rollover valve to prevent me from doing so? I know there's a drain plug, but I don't happen to have a 15 gallon gas can lying around handy, so I'll need to go the old fashioned route.
Just out of curiosity, why do u need to do this?
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Old 09-23-2009, 03:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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SiPHON MADNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tough economic times. Maybe he filled it up but now hes nselling it and he wants most the gas.
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Old 09-23-2009, 06:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Not that its anybody's business. but wasn't paying attention to what I was doing at the gas station the other day and filled it up with Regular, and don't want to run it on a full tank of the stuff.
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Old 09-23-2009, 06:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Not that its anybody's business. but wasn't paying attention to what I was doing at the gas station the other day and filled it up with Regular, and don't want to run it on a full tank of the stuff.

Is it harmful to run regular?

I remember reading the owners manual and I believe it said "You may use 87 Octane if 93 Octane is not available. But note that the car will lose performance." Somewhere along those lines.

I may be wrong though it's been a while.
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it'll be okay. just run it all out, then add octane booster and fuel injection cleaner to the next tank.
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it'll be okay. just run it all out, then add octane booster and fuel injection cleaner to the next tank.
Just finished having the injectors cleaned and serviced, so that's why I'm looking to get the gas out.
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Old 09-23-2009, 07:13 PM   #9 (permalink)
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what are you going to do with the 15 gallons of regular gas? I would say add octane booster to it, drive until its gone and lesson learn.
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Ok Siphon half out and use it in your mower then get premium and youll have mid grade!
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You will be fine just running the 87 octane for a tank. You could just dump some octane booster in it if you are terribly concerned, but 87 isn't going to hurt anything. The ECU will compensate for it by retarding your timing a bit, so you will lose some power, but other than that you should be fine.
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booster and drive. one tank of subpar gas will not kill your car. don't be stupid.
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Unless this is all just a sham and you want to know how to steal gas to get high and sh+t......then you're just a skid.....
Wow... people stilll do that? I remember that from the 80's =D If you want to know for that reason, just hold a lighter to the top of the gas cap, and look down inside, and see if you can see the gas.



However, back to the original question at hand- at the end of the fill tube, there is a filter-looking thing thats made of what looks like knitted wire..., preventing any decently sized hose from getting down into the tank =( Your best bet, is to raise it up, get a buncha 5 gallon buckets, and drain it the traditional way (Fuel Tank Drain Plug)

Ofcourse, you can always try to poke through the filter thingy; but then you'd end up with chunks of it and/or your hose, in your gas tank.
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You'll be fine. Just put 93 on the next fill up.
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I rode a tank of regular on my lude once.

The one of the rods shot out of the crank case, and the piston fused itself to the head.

No, i'm kidding, you will be just fine, I hardly even noticed a difference.
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Back when I was really poor and didn't know better, I ran my car on nothing but 87. I probably did this for 2 years. No ill effects.
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Back when I was really poor and didn't know better, I ran my car on nothing but 87. I probably did this for 2 years. No ill effects.
Doesn't it say 93 octane on the gas door?
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It just says Premium Fuel Only on mine
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Doesn't it say 93 octane on the gas door?
Why all this concern over what a sticker on a gas door says?

How many people smoke?
How many people speed?
How many people eat fatty foods?
How many people don't wear seatbelts?
How many people drink and drive?

All those important signs which warn of dire consequences go ignored, and a recommendation stuck to a gas door of an every day car sparks such panic amongst people who profess to be knowledgeable about said vehicle. It's laughable. The way some of you carry on, one would think you're pumping your tank full of cement.

As kronn98sh said, he used regular and his car ran fine. I ran both of my Preludes on 87 when I was going to school, 1) because I couldn't afford premium, and 2) there is no guarantee the previous owners used premium either. It wasn't until I had the timing belt done and the engine meticulously cleaned out that I started to use premium.


- My '97 ran fine for 6 months on 87, before some yokel ignored a red light and t-boned it.

- My '99 ran fine on 87 for two years before the timing belt was replaced. Three years later it still runs fine. Admittedly it loves 94 more than 91, but if I switched it back to "diet" I have no doubt it would still run and drive just fine.

In six years and with two Preludes, I have seen the CEL a grand total of twice, despite "abusing" them with regular gasoline. Both times in the autumn, and both on days when it went from being unusually warm during the day, to extraordinarily cold and damp in a short period of time. Both were nonsensical codes, which when cleared did not return.


I am not in any way shape or form saying you shouldn't heed what the manual says. I am not advocating going out and buying low grade gasoline. What I am saying though, is you CAN use 87 in a Prelude if you cannot find premium, if you cannot afford premium, or if you by error, fill up with regular. The car will not turn into a pumpkin as soon as you drive away.


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I still think it is an illusion that running lower octane fuel actually saves you any money. The ECU retards the timing to compensate for the lower octane, which in turn lowers your MPG, thereby offsetting the ~20 cents a gallon that you "save".

Long story short, just put 91 octane in the tank. If you put 87 in, you may be risking detonation (still highly unlikely), you will be cutting horsepower, and hurting your MPG's. While it probably won't hurt anything, there is absolutely no reason to run 87 octane long-term.
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