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Old 05-18-2011, 06:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Sh or base

I'm 16 I want a prelude really bad and I don't know the difference in base our sh model can I get some help and which is better model
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base = no atts
sh = atts
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Difference = Search.
lmao, its true.


I guess since youre are sixteen just get one that looks good and clean.
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First of all, I'd like to apologize on behalf of all the tards on here with their smartass answers. I went base model myself for a few reasons...The only differences between SH (Super Handling) and the base are the SH has the wing on the trunk with third brake light, as the base has no rear wing with the third brake light on the rear deck between the rear speakers inside the rear windshield. The SH has the ATT controller attacthed to the transmission which limits slip almost like a locker or posi-traction control transfering power to the outside wheel during turns. But, it is just one more thing to break, leak, and its harder to find headers and exhaust systems that fit because of this. i personally like the sleek look of no wing on the trunk which is another reason I went base. Their are however different interior options on the 5th Gen Ludes. I personally think the half black half tan interior is pretty saucy as it resembles a BMW or higher luxury cars interior.
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oh, and DO NOT get the Triptronic Auto Transmission!!! Pure garbage! Nothing but problems and no power! Only go 5 speed manual!
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FThe only differences between SH (Super Handling) and the base are the SH has the wing on the trunk with third brake light, as the base has no rear wing with the third brake light on the rear deck between the rear speakers inside the rear windshield. The SH has the ATT controller attacthed to the transmission which limits slip almost like a locker or posi-traction control .
those are not the only differences.
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alright ***s then prove me wrong I have yet to see any of you state any facts on top of mine.....ya thats what I thought. Come on get off your high horses any help someone out. I might be new and smart enough to not pay for a dumb account on here but I still have offered more help and info than any of you.
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oh and kronn....no cares about your crap you used to have or are trying to sell get out!
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do it broo!!
im the same age and im getting a red 97 5th gen BASE tmrw!
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Just remembered the struts, and sway bars, or suspension is stiffer and more built but if you plan on lowering this will all be junked anyways which is why I forgot bout these minors. Who wants stock anyways? lol The SH is more talked up than its worth. Search even these forums to see all the problems people have with the ATTS contoller and the Triptronic tranny to see just how problematic the SH is versus the base. And also think about how much money youd rather spend on cool new parts for a base versus upkeep and maintenance on unesesarry parts. SH tranny wont help you at all at the strip since there are no corners. lol
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When you get the car be careful when first trying to get on it to see what its got. These cars are fast but even the five speed trannys can be weak. Remember its a honda...its not a nascar. Many people have missed their shift from second to third because the tranny is notorious for guiding your shift in between 3rd and 5th gear where if not carefull and powershifting you will grind the synchro in bewtween 3rd and 5th gear possibly locking you out of reverse permanently. This is actually a common issue. Make sure the owner lets you take it to v-tech and then shift through gears to test the condition of synchros to make sure it goes into all gears with no grinding but shift easily. Even a transmission specialist will tell you quick hard shifting is never good and they simply arent built for it. A rebuilt trany will run you $1700.00
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First of all, I'd like to apologize on behalf of all the tards on here with their smartass answers.
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ramble ramble ramble.... v-tech ..... ramble ramble ramble...
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OP, use the search. This question has been answered many times but members much better informed than "Dantheludeman." There is a ton of great info on this forum, but no one is going to spoon feed it to you.
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OP, use the search. This question has been answered many times but members much better informed than "Dantheludeman." There is a ton of great info on this forum, but no one is going to spoon feed it to you.
Except dumbasses like Dan who will feed you incorrect info and then spend the rest of the time throwing out ignorant insults.
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alright ***s then prove me wrong I have yet to see any of you state any facts on top of mine.....ya thats what I thought. Come on get off your high horses any help someone out. I might be new and smart enough to not pay for a dumb account on here but I still have offered more help and info than any of you.
sides and rear are body color, sh has interior door lights, different rims etc. and no one pays for an account on here, its free for everyone, even the dumb asses like you.
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Dan really knows how to influence hearts and minds. The ignorance is strong with this one...

Firstly the spoiler was not an option limited to SH models, in fact there were plenty of SH's shipped WITHOUT one. Thats a 'Prelude' option and not at all unique to the SH. The whole front end in terms of suspension is significantly different from the base, particularly geometry etc.

The motor is slightly different as is the transmission (aside from the atts unit) and they aren't cross compatible with the base trans/motor. So in short if you have a base motor, you need a base transmission, if you have an SH motor, you need an SH transmission they are not interchangeable.

The ATTS unit is NOT like a limited slip diff, or a positraction unit or a 'locker' at all. It's controlled electrically and as dan mentioned diverts power to the outside wheel to make up for the effects of front wheel drive under cornering and accelerating. A 'locker' simply becomes a spool under load, it's on or off. A limited slip differential has a variable amount of lockup (hence limited slip) and a positraction differential is the gm name for limited slip and is not a locker as lockers do not allow slippage when locked.

Try and at least get half a clue before you start blathering about how you know all this crap cause clearly you don't.
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And also think about how much money youd rather spend on cool new parts for a base versus upkeep and maintenance on unesesarry parts. SH tranny wont help you at all at the strip since there are no corners. lol
i dont think they intended it to be a strip car.......i bet his looks like a batch of mexican rice lol
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I'm 16 I want a prelude really bad and I don't know the difference in base our sh model can I get some help and which is better model
From a performance point of view ,the SH model comes with a special high lift cam, modified suspension, and ATTS differential that gives the Prelude near rear wheel drive performance and can help cover your ass if you should make a mistake in a corner. Shown below is the cam, suspension and ATTS protect information for the SH Prelude.The greater performance of the SH model will give you a greater margin for safety as you develop your driving skills.






Differences shown from the 1999 sales brochure:


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wow really lol
well let me help you out Roger rains. My lude was my first car i ever bought. she is a 2000 type sh and let me tell you it was worth it. at first i thought "**** i bought the wrong prelude! i cant boost it a whole lot and im limited to certain performance modifications..." in other words i got a picky ass ***** for a car. but hey shes my picky ass ***** and i love it! dont get my wrong i would really love to be running a high boosted car so i can kick people asses but there arent going to be many chances to use the full potential of your car (legally anyway lol). with my car i realized that i found myself a good daily driver that can handle the twisty roads very well. VERY WELL lol. twisty roads are what the prelude was designed for, especially the ones with atts. the atts is the best thing about the car and also the worst thing about the car. yes its good for cornering and all that but its super sensitive to certain mods(like high boost, a really low drop, or running it past 250 whp and 250 lbs of torque). i think what you need to do is find out what you are going to be doing with this car(daily driver, track day car etc.). find a lude that you really like and you should be happy : )
just do us all a favor.... stay the F**k away from the automatic transmission models. they have worse problems than the atts unit in a type sh : /
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