Sad day for a Prelude - Honda Prelude Forum

Nocturnal · 02-02-2002, 06:23 AM

R/T .667
60' 2.315
330 6.511
1/8 9.959
MPH 70.76
1000
1/4 15.462
MPH 90.18

I am very disappointed in my car. Guess it's time to go ahead and finish building my spare head. I have a really weak clutch, but I was running these times with my '99 SS...

atlxchink · 02-02-2002, 06:56 AM

are you shifting at 7400 or 8000? also, you have 18's, which is SEVERALLY detrimental towards time. doesn't help that they're heavy ass Konig's.

SAM

SHguy1 · 02-02-2002, 09:25 AM

I have never ran my car with the 18's on it but the last lude that I had with my stocks on it I ran a 9.63 1/8 and with 17's I could break a 10. Plus the fact that your car is an SS doesn't help.

Nocturnal · 02-02-2002, 10:31 AM

My current Lude is not an automatic... And by the way, these 18's weigh less than a stock wheel

US_HONDA · 02-02-2002, 01:09 PM

It is not wheel weight that matters in acceleration - it's wheel diameter. Put simply, the greater the total diameter, the slower the acceleration times you are going to have! You wanna win at the drag strip, throw on some 15" mags. Great for acceleration, sh*itty for top speed...

Anton BB6 · 02-02-2002, 01:31 PM

Iâ€™m confused. If an 18" wheel that weighs less than the stock wheel with the proper size tire shouldn't affect the time at all, should it? Do you have a huge stereo? I don't want to believe that 18's that weigh less than stock will affect our et.

SHguy1 · 02-02-2002, 01:58 PM

I thought that you posted "SS" meaning sport shift, thats why I said that about automatics. Even if your 18 are lighter they are still a lot bigger in diameter then the stocks, thats the reason for the big difference. Unfortunatly my rims are like 51lbs each, so need less to say when I do decide to take the car to the track I will not have them on the car. ex) I buddy of mine ran a 9.65 in the 1/8 w/ 60 shot wet kit. I ran a 9.63 w/ I E in my last lude no nos. the difference is the rim he has 18 HRE and they are insanely heavy.

2kLuder · 02-02-2002, 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by menace
Iâ€™m confused. If an 18" wheel that weighs less than the stock wheel with the proper size tire shouldn't affect the time at all, should it? Do you have a huge stereo? I don't want to believe that 18's that weigh less than stock will affect our et.

i always wondered that also. an 18' wheel with a 35 series tire is overall the same size as the stock wheel with the stock tire, if you stand them next to eachother they are the same

Greek Lude · 02-02-2002, 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by US_HONDA
It is not wheel weight that matters in acceleration - it's wheel diameter. Put simply, the greater the total diameter, the slower the acceleration times you are going to have! You wanna win at the drag strip, throw on some 15" mags. Great for acceleration, sh*itty for top speed...

You are sooooo wrong. When I get back tommorow from my saturday night partying I'll elaborate.

Nocturnal · 02-02-2002, 05:44 PM

I don't know what kind of physics you guys have been talking, but the size of a wheel inside a tire doesn't affect acceleration or speed in any way.

18's usually affect performance becuause they are usually heavier than stock wheels. I have 215/35/18 tire and they are actually 3 tenths of an inch SMALLER than stock tires and wheels.

Wheel diameter has nothing to do with it. It's the overall perimeter (or circumference) of the tire that matters. Inertia is a measurment of weight. You all are crazy if you thing that out of two wheel and tire sets of the same weight, one will out run the other because you have 2 inches of tire and and 18 inches of wheel versus 4 inches of tire and 16 inches of wheel.

People use 15" racing wheels because they are lighter and take less force to turn, not because they are smaller.

Flavour · 02-02-2002, 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by SHguy1
I thought that you posted "SS" meaning sport shift, thats why I said that about automatics. Even if your 18 are lighter they are still a lot bigger in diameter then the stocks, thats the reason for the big difference. Unfortunatly my rims are like 51lbs each, so need less to say when I do decide to take the car to the track I will not have them on the car. ex) I buddy of mine ran a 9.65 in the 1/8 w/ 60 shot wet kit. I ran a 9.63 w/ I E in my last lude no nos. the difference is the rim he has 18 HRE and they are insanely heavy.

51 lbs each?!? holy f#@$@, what is your ride like?

Nocturnal · 02-02-2002, 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by Flavour

51 lbs each?!? holy f#@$@, what is your ride like?

... Flintstones, meet the Flintstones

Flavour · 02-02-2002, 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by Nocturnal
I don't know what kind of physics you guys have been talking, but the size of a wheel inside a tire doesn't affect acceleration or speed in any way.

18's usually affect performance becuause they are usually heavier than stock wheels. I have 215/35/18 tire and they are actually 3 tenths of an inch SMALLER than stock tires and wheels.

Wheel diameter has nothing to do with it. It's the overall perimeter (or circumference) of the tire that matters. Inertia is a measurment of weight. You all are crazy if you thing that out of two wheel and tire sets of the same weight, one will out run the other because you have 2 inches of tire and and 18 inches of wheel versus 4 inches of tire and 16 inches of wheel.

People use 15" racing wheels because they are lighter and take less force to turn, not because they are smaller.

you and my greek friend are wrong. yes weight matters, but how far away the weight is from the center also makes a difference. you guys are forgetting that tires are heavy, and the further from the center the tires are, the more work it takes to turn them.

Flavour · 02-02-2002, 06:00 PM

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Originally posted by Nocturnal

... Flintstones, meet the Flintstones

LOL...

hey, you must have done a lot of work on your SS to make it run 15.4's... maybe you just need to do more work on this one to get better times. I havent 1/4'd yet but in our car 2.3+ 60' isn't good...

SHguy1 · 02-03-2002, 12:23 AM

I have racing hart C2's w/ 225/35/18 there are very heavy, doesnt really ride bad at all. As far as diameter that DOES have a big effect on the cars times and acceleration. Down sizing rims and tires is like changing the gear ratios in the tranny. If you have lets say a 15 inch rim with 205/40/15 its a lot smaller and your car will get a better 60 foot and over all 1/8 mile time.

ZMonkey11 · 02-03-2002, 03:13 AM

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Originally posted by Nocturnal
R/T .667
60' 2.315
330 6.511
1/8 9.959
MPH 70.76
1000
1/4 15.462
MPH 90.18

I am very disappointed in my car. Guess it's time to go ahead and finish building my spare head. I have a really weak clutch, but I was running these times with my '99 SS...

Shiz, I ran a 15.355 today and I am thrilled!!! And I got the stock wheels on and more mods than you. I guess I'm just thrilled because the other time I went to the track, I ran a 16.9, 15.9, then a 16.0 to finish off the day...

Nocturnal · 02-03-2002, 05:58 AM

ATTENTION: Read the damn post for a change!!!!!!!!! MY CAR IS NOT A SS!!!

Mr.RiceAdvisor · 02-03-2002, 11:09 AM

quote from Nocturnal: I am very disappointed in my car. Guess it's time to go ahead and finish building my spare head. I have a really weak clutch, but I was running these times with my '99 SS...

Me:

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I don't know what you mean by SS but you can see why people would be confused if your car was a SS..

Then what do you mean by SS?

Nocturnal · 02-03-2002, 12:05 PM

Before I bought my current car ('97 Prelude 5sp), I had a '99 Prelude auto... I was running about the same times in the automatic before I sold it.

Nocturnal · 02-03-2002, 12:08 PM

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Originally posted by Nocturnal
R/T .667
60' 2.315
330 6.511
1/8 9.959
MPH 70.76
1000
1/4 15.462
MPH 90.18

I am very disappointed in my car. Guess it's time to go ahead and finish building my spare head. I have a really weak CLUTCH , but I was running these times with my '99 SS...

How many auto's have you ever seen with a clutch?