Which REAL short shifter to buy? - Honda Prelude Forum

01ludenedd · 01-03-2011, 09:27 AM

So while I have half of my interior ripped out for installing my new system, I wanted to put in a short shifter. Not one of the adapter ones, but a real full kit. I was looking at neuspeed, jtc customs, and 4bidden (didn't see any left). Was wondering what the input was on the best one to get, i want it to be shorter throw wise and in height of the knob, and be as smooth as possible. From what I have read they are all a PAIN to install, so i'm expecting that, and price isn't as big of deal as quality. Thanks!

lilredlude · 01-03-2011, 09:36 AM

my lean i have fs.

geramy · 01-03-2011, 09:41 AM

Does Neuspeed make a real short shifter???

I have the pspec, its an awesome piece, height and throw are both adjustable and its fit and finish are awesome.

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01ludenedd · 01-03-2011, 09:44 AM

Here is the neuspeed one I saw, who knows what the one in the picture is for... although on their site, it only shows the adapter.... hm

I was just looking at the pspec and going through the tutorial, not bad, looks the same as the jtc customs though, just with new bushings, and nicer finish.

lilredlude; saw your lean for sale, didn't look height adjustable or any shorter. Why did you switch to the JTC, do you like it better?

lilredlude · 01-03-2011, 09:56 AM

i have a lean short shifter. no longer made. not height adjustable like the jtc or the pspec, but it is throw adjustable, its 1/2" shorter than stock. no breaking apart your box either, mines ready to drop in. LEAN.racing

if you're looking for more height adjustability i'd go with jtc over pspec - it's cheaper and almost the same. the only thing you loose over the pspec is the shift base bushings.

i replaced the lean with the jtc. you can't go to low on it because the arm hits on the shift box - so you have to cut it or raise it up. if you aren't cutting it, its about the same as my lean. and for throw, you can go lower, but again, if you go to low you have to cut it so it will get in all the gears, and if you go to low it feels clunky. i swapped out the lean because i had a lot of shifter travel l-r when in gear and i was hoping changing the shifter would fix that. it didn't, so i really had no use of buying the jtc.

01ludenedd · 01-03-2011, 12:55 PM

ya, i saw on the pspec to check for clearance on the housing for 1st and 2nd gear, i wonder if maybe the piece on the jtc is longer and thats why you would to trim some off... or just cust some off of that shaft.

lilredlude · 01-03-2011, 12:57 PM

i couldn't trim enough off the housing to make it work, i had to cut the shaft.

other than that though, the pspec isn't worth the extra 100.

or of course you can go with my lean and there is no trimming

01ludenedd · 01-04-2011, 10:05 AM

I wonder what difference the aluminum bushings that come with the PSPEC make? and if I would have to cut the shaft on the PSPEC as well... almost wish I could have both in my hand to compare the two, but i'll keep dreaming. Getting close to making a decision, close to being done with my system, so I wanna start putting things back together.

geramy · 01-04-2011, 10:08 AM

I didnt have to cut anything when i installed my PSpec. its a great piece, it layed around the shop for a few days waiting to get installed and everyone was very impressed with it.

I havent seen any of the others so I cant compare, but I will say the PSpec was worth the $200.

lilredlude · 01-04-2011, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 01ludenedd

I wonder what difference the aluminum bushings that come with the PSPEC make? and if I would have to cut the shaft on the PSPEC as well... almost wish I could have both in my hand to compare the two, but i'll keep dreaming. Getting close to making a decision, close to being done with my system, so I wanna start putting things back together.

you can buy those aftermarket if you really wanted to. i wouldn't spend the extra $100 on the pspec (and i didn't, lol) i had the 1st version of the pspec and it was nice. i think the jtc is alot heavier than any others. the problem with the pspec and jtc are you need to put thread locker in, so you are sort of stuck on whatever setting you choose. i have to keep screwing the set screws back in because i don't want to lock them in yet. i have a new tranny i need to install, so i want to make sure it is smooth on that tranny. that's one think i like about the lean and the 1st version pspec is that they are set, so that stupid selector in the middle doesn't need to be tightened. i might put the lean back in, lol.

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Originally Posted by geramy

I didnt have to cut anything when i installed my PSpec. its a great piece, it layed around the shop for a few days waiting to get installed and everyone was very impressed with it.

I havent seen any of the others so I cant compare, but I will say the PSpec was worth the $200.

is it at its lowest setting for height and throw?

geramy · 01-04-2011, 11:03 AM

no, its not at the lowest height, It alreadys sits low at the mid adjustment, going any lower wouldnt feel right to me.

01ludenedd · 01-04-2011, 11:33 AM

Not that the looks matter, but based on them alone it looks like the pspec is a little better made... i'll prob order one of those... now I just have to try and explain to the wife why it costs $200

01ludenedd · 01-04-2011, 11:35 AM

Was also gonna pick up a weighted skunk2 shift knob... the one i have is after market, but its got some marks in it from whoever tried to put it on...

lilredlude · 01-04-2011, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 01ludenedd

Not that the looks matter, but based on them alone it looks like the pspec is a little better made... i'll prob order one of those... now I just have to try and explain to the wife why it costs $200

the jtc is stainless, it has a very nice finish.

bouckarooo · 01-04-2011, 12:37 PM

I have the Nuespeed, its great, and then to finish it off i shortened and customized the lever to my liking and its great. I contemplated gettign the PSPEC but after the work i did on mine i see no use for it as the nuespeed shortens the throw significantly and then the hieght was done when i customized it.

01ludenedd · 01-04-2011, 12:39 PM

Do you have a pic of what the neuspeed one looks like or a link? Problem is I have no way of welding it back together if I cut it shorter, the height adjustable is def a +

bouckarooo · 01-04-2011, 12:46 PM

uhmmm, i dont have a pic of jsut the nuespeed parts, but i have one of the finished product with the shift boot cut down and resewn to fit the new height without being all scrunched up. i will put one on teh members poicture part and try link it in another thread, but i tell you its low as f8ck and the throw is about 45%less or so (whatever the nuespeed shortens it by i think it is 45%)

01ludenedd · 01-04-2011, 01:09 PM

Is the Neuspeed the whole assembly?... or is it parts that you have to change out like the pspec or jtc?

bouckarooo · 01-04-2011, 02:08 PM

Its a bracket that you put inplac eof the oem bracket, it is truly awesome, but i had a major issues trying to find one, then one day i went in my buddies shop and he had one in the back storage room, just chillin that he didtn even knwo about. I nded up getting it for cheap and it is still one of the funnest mods i have ever done.

geramy · 01-04-2011, 06:59 PM

I had a neuspeed adapter but didnt like it. It did shorten the throw a little, but no where near what the PSpec did.