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Old 12-06-2008, 06:28 PM   #251 (permalink)
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Didnt the later G35's scrap the Brembro's because they were able to get the cars to stop better without them? I cant see any problem with swapping Brembo's with Wildwood because I'm sure there was a huge market for those OEM brembos which helps offset the cost.


BB6Allstar thats a great setup but please with the "almost" all Honda parts. I just read through your parts list and you're running a non OEM intake, header, cat, exhaust, tuning, pistons, and cams. LOL, that's probably 90% of your gains right there.

BTW Mr. Best Prelude In The World.. you just paid $600 for aluminum door sills and you have them face down on a concrete curb?

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Here is the real reason this thread was started...

Wait wait wait wait wait.....hold on there a sec....you mean these stupid sills aren't even the full sill-plates?

THEY JUST PASTE ON!?!?!


Dude, this whole time I have been moderately criticizing you for an out-of-proportion buy....I though that to go easy cause I don't want to sound as out-of-control as some of these other guys ( )....


...But now you just did it for me....They arent the full piece that replaces the whole plastice part...THEY ONLY GLUE ON.

I can't believe this, honestly, **** all you guys that have bought these in the past...you're all a bunch of morons, whether you bought em for $620, or $150...A part that just pastes on...what a moronic rip-off.
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^^^ Hey now I resemble that comment! They're doublesided taped on and although I agree this guy is a tool for blowing $600 for them they do step the interior up a bit.
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i would never even notice them...a 620$ door sill...lol
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how would u not notice them? they may not be worth $620 to you but those look so sick. complete interior so perfectly.
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i wouldnt notice them b/c i never look at my door sills. i open the car, get in, close door and never think twice about it. thats just me
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Wait wait wait wait wait.....hold on there a sec....you mean these stupid sills aren't even the full sill-plates?

THEY JUST PASTE ON!?!?!


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i wouldnt notice them b/c i never look at my door sills. i open the car, get in, close door and never think twice about it. thats just me
if i bought them, id notice them every time i got in my car :P id make myself notice them, they look great

but on a side note, i too was surprised they were stuck on and not full replacements.
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^^ you mean you didn't click on the thread in the beginning to see they were just the metal pieces and not a complete piece? Even I knew that. It was even said on here how the attached to the sill and all that from the start. It's not like I didn't know what I was getting into.

For the record, i'm very pleased with them. They're really eye catching and they will get alot more attention than you all would think. My interior is a good conversation starter anyway, so of course I'm opening the door alot. I've been asked by at least 5 different girls if they could sit in it when I go around to the hangouts on wedneday nights. I'm actually surprised by how many know so much about Preludes and know the interior is the SIR interior.

I personally think the only people who should be saying things about these sills on here are the ones that own them or have owned them. They aren't worth $600 like I said, but they sure are worth having. I believe I can stick a fork in this interior, because it's done.
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try not mentioning it to people when you show the car and see if anyone notices on their own. i'm just curious because my friend had them on his car and i took it for a spin and did not even notice he had them till he pointed it out to me 4 months later.
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For the record, i'm very pleased with them. They're really eye catching and they will get alot more attention than you all would think. My interior is a good conversation starter anyway, so of course I'm opening the door alot. I've been asked by at least 5 different girls if they could sit in it when I go around to the hangouts on wedneday nights. I'm actually surprised by how many know so much about Preludes and know the interior is the SIR interior.
You should've just stuck them to the door. That way, you wouldn't have to open up every time you wanted to score some fly *****es.
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omg, this thread keeps getting better/worse. One of the reasons I was so harsh on the ridiculous purchase price is because I knew they were just stick ons. They are no different than some of the other ebay pieces out there except they say "prelude" on them.

Compared to all the fancy door sills out there, miata, NSX, s2k, etc, these things are extremely cheap. And although I might spend a couple hundred on them if I had the extra cash, I would never spend 600+ because they quite simply are just not worth that.
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I don't think they're that cheap. They are stainless steel and had some definite heft to them. At least they're not plastic with paint that tries to make it look like metal (like how I originally thought) I know that we are all chiding on the fact they're a stick on (not paste?) but honda has used stick on for other OEM pieces as well. Like their carbon fiber/woodgrain center dash kit piece for example.

If it is not a place that will see much wear and tear, then why not? Not everything has to be over-engineered. Once they were stuck on, the fitment was better than I thought it would be.

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Yeah, I've been reading since this thread first started, I am surprised that I didn't get that at first, I'm the fool for that, sorry.

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..............Like their carbon fiber/woodgrain center dash kit piece for example.
Oh man, you guys with CF INTERIOR TRIM (!!) are sooooooo cool. I mean, c'mon, how cool is switching out cheap plastic parts for CARBON FIBER. I mean seriously, to all who buys CF interior ****, how useless can it get? What a waste...

...Now I'm just goin' off on everybody that buys stupid **** for their prelude, but you are special, because you spent $620(...and don't you forget it) . Sorry, went over the top. Again...

Look man, I don't think you are stupid like everyone else(apparently), I just think you made a terrible financial decision, on your part(which is fine, as long as it's your decision). ...And about the glue on sheit, geeez, these honda guys were really out to make oem fans look like total douchebags, I mean, I can just see them in Japan sitting around a table discussing...."I wonder how foolishly loyal out customers are???....(another says)...I bet They are stupid enough to buy a piece of etched aluminum(it's steel?) for
$200+...." .....I bet they called that guy a ****ing moron........................and guess what......................(they probably also discussed what other useless materials they can make interior trim pieces out of, that they can sell as "different" after market....one said CF, "its the same thing, but has little lines running across, all the stupid kids are all over it nowaday")

(I realize they don't speak english.)
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Blacklude1 could translate your english to asian for you

Yes, they're stainless steel. No they're not aluminum.

Fine, go ahead and rant all you want. It's a nice item to have, it completes the interior like I said. Why go halfway and skimp out on the complete thing in my opinion? This ties it all together.

You can't argue that I haven't done so much to the rest of the car that I am literally running out of things to do to it. All the big things I have to do on it in the future will have to work with my timetable of getting redeployed to Iraq again. When that happens, then the tranny swap with LSD will come into play as well as n2o and methanol injection. Those are going to be expensive, yes, but in reality, the downtime it would "cost" me (more than money) make them impractical to do right now.

I'm glad "The best *insert word* in the world" has become a household word here on the forum, negative publicity is still publicity right? But you can't deny that what this car started as and what it will become doesn't demonstrate the versatility of this platform. And with that, people can look at it and decide which parts they'd like to get and which they don't want to get based on the looks and function of them.

Like I said before, one of my main gripes about this forum was all the cool cars back in the day have had their pictures taken down due to different reasons. Now there are really no real good discussions going on as to parts that we want or are looking at and instead there's just a bunch of haters. This forum stays true when people actually do things to their car. Right now it is just "subsisting" in the O.T. But I think it's users like me, lilbill97, brian1897, conjur, bb6allstar, jflipwa and a couple of others that keep posting up parts they've bought and what they're doing with them that really make PO what is was originally intended to be.
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Oh man, you guys with CF INTERIOR TRIM (!!) are sooooooo cool. I mean, c'mon, how cool is switching out cheap plastic parts for CARBON FIBER. I mean seriously, to all who buys CF interior ****, how useless can it get? What a waste...

I like my CF Trim. I don't brag about it, but it looks real clean and understated. I'm sure those that have it on here too will agree.

And as for other stick on items, don't forget the OEM rain visors for the windows and sunroof, alot of people have those on here too. Hell, those were made for really inclimate conditions and I see them lasting really long too.
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i like my fake carbon fiber trim too.

and i'm sure alot of others do also, and alot of ppl who don't have it also. it's a well liked and accepted item. pierce may not be in the know
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Yes, they're stainless steel. No they're not aluminum.
What? They're not SS, they're aluminum.
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I like my CF Trim. I don't brag about it, but it looks real clean and understated. I'm sure those that have it on here too will agree.

And as for other stick on items, don't forget the OEM rain visors for the windows and sunroof, alot of people have those on here too. Hell, those were made for really inclimate conditions and I see them lasting really long too.
The OEM Honda kit looks nice yes, but like real CF not even close, I had and there's no chance I'll agree with you that it looked real. Also the JDM Honda Access Visors had clips that held them on not double sided tape.
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You're right, I didn't know many people like it, but I still don't and think it is a waste of money. The way I see it, is, if you're gonna spend money on your car, it might as well help it do something its already meant to do, only better....trim doesn't do much, but thats my opinion.

prepreludesh, if I were you, I'd do everything to my car that I want done, then tell everybody, simply, "hey, look at my car, I worked real hard for a long time, and this is what I got, hope you like it"

If you keep starting these stupid threads that you make that naturally attracked negative attention, and keep toting about how much money you spend, you'll never get positive respect-which is the reason you start the thread in the first place. Let people notice all the small **** on their own($620 door sills, sir int.) which you said at some car shows people would by themselves acknowledge your sir int., and stop telling people in your threads..."hey everybody, just in case you missed it, notice how awsome my car is"..

Maybe this isn't your intention, but thats what it sounded like at least at the beginning of this thread, and thats how about 85% of the people that have viewed it see it, and that is most likely why you got all this ****......key words-let people notice your awsome car on their own.
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The OEM Honda kit looks nice yes, but like real CF not even close, I had and there's no chance I'll agree with you that it looked real. Also the JDM Honda Access Visors had clips that held them on not double sided tape.
I never said it looked anything like real carbon fiber, you're making up in your head I said that...

And yes they're stainless steel, prove me wrong with a credible source and I'll believe you. They weigh too much to be aluminum for the thickness they are.
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I dont have to prove you wrong because its obvious, I'll let you carry on thinking that they're SS so you can prove your awesome knowledge of your own parts to everyone.
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is there a magnet test or something? cut a piece of the sill and send it in to have it tested.
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You're right, I didn't know many people like it, but I still don't and think it is a waste of money. The way I see it, is, if you're gonna spend money on your car, it might as well help it do something its already meant to do, only better....trim doesn't do much, but thats my opinion.
The CF trim does EXACTLY that. The car's interior was meant to look good, but the trim makes it look even better. Everyone that owns the CF weave interior trim kit owns it for the fact that it looks nice and spruces up the interior, just like the way that prepreludesh has bought the door sills to complete his interior. The big difference though is the fact that the CF kit doesn't cost an exorbitant amount of money, whereas he spent $620 on some door sills. The CF trim kits are VERY popular if you haven't noticed. Also, so many people having it shows that it's pretty worth it..whereas spending from $300 up to $600 for two pieces of aluminum that are barely noticed only when the doors open is pretty outrageous and thus a lot of people don't buy them. To each their own opinion, but think about it as the same concept of buying nice clothes. Wearing nice clothes doesn't do much, but we all would like to look nice wouldn't we?
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is there a magnet test or something? cut a piece of the sill and send it in to have it tested.
Yes and no to the magnet. My dad taught me this one. When I was buying stainless steel exhaust pipe in the mail, I got two different tubes. One was T-409 SS and the other was T-304 SS. (at this point, I thought they were both T-304). He took a magnet and the magnet stuck to the T-409 SS but not to the T-304. When he later looked it up, T-409 is said to be an inferior product to the T-304 SS. It is not as corrosion resistant (which means it will rust in time) and definitely weighs more. So I could do a magnet test, but if it doesn't stick, that's still not saying if it's SS or aluminum.
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Hey, anybody know what rims these are?

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ThatPreludeGuy....helping.....me....????

I'm....so...confused... what is happening? *checks pulse*

*snaps out of it*

okay tough guy, since you're so smart, I've got alot of questions then. First of all, I'd ask if you knew if these would fit:

eBay Motors: 4 NEW 17x8 5x114.3 5Zigen FN01R-C Wheels/Rims (item 190232194906 end time Dec-21-08 12:33:50 PST)

But since they fit under his wheel so well, and the camber is not off (or at least, totally off) then it might be a 17x7... but I'm finding them in either 17x8 or 17x9. Offset for that one up there is 25. I want to try my original theory of seeing if a 17x8 would work and not jut out like my current setup is, but I'm sensing failure with that.

The good part about a 17x8 wheel would be I could put a 225/40 tire on it, but I'm still worried about the offset issue...

I wish somebody knew who owned this car so I could personally ask him


And between you and me ThatPreludeGuy, thanks. But don't get cocky and arrogant like I am.
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We do know this guy. He used to be somewhat of a "regular." But I haven't seen Curt since npm 07. He made few posts on here after that.
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A 25mm rim is going to be a disaster, 17*8 have been run with the proper offset but I'm guessing at full lock you're going to rub. Also afaik only Nitto makes a 225/40/17 and you could fit those on a 17*7 or 17*7.5 rim. Pretty much between 42-48mm on a 17*7 or 17*7.5 rim is optimal however you need to worry about the inside diameter of the rear of the wheel.
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I know a 25mm offset sounds bad... and I'm pretty well versed on how anything wider than 7" might have an issue rubbing on this arm or hitting the bottom of this upper ball joint:



I'm just wondering if he had any comments on if they rubbed or not. I like the look of this wheel and this is what I mean by I'm still not sure if it's going to rub or not by looking at numbers, regardless of the info that kukles put up.

You don't think this is an 18" wheel do you?
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5Zigen FN01R-C Wheel 17x7, 5x114.3

Found this website... gives me the option of ordering a 17x7 5zigen wheel with the correct bolt pattern. Only problem is the offset options are pretty diverse. I get to choose between 35, 42 and 48. I wish I knew what that offset was... anybody know jus by looking at it? I would guess the 35mm would be my bet... or do I have it backwards? shiiiiiiiit....

And yeah, I bet this kurt guy has the 17x7 instead of 17x8 because I don't know how well a 215 tire would fit on an 8" wheel. My 215's on my 7" wheel look absolutely perfect. I would imagine here's no rim protection if you stretched a 215 on an 8"....
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I don't think a 215 on and 8" wheel would fit, but it certainly wouldn't be safe. If you were to hit a pot-hole 2" deep at more than 35mph, your tire would pop and ruin your nice rims. It's happened to some friends of mine(only it was on a truck with diff. wheel/tire sizes, but same issue).

Hey, can I ask an ignorant persons question? What does the 35mm, 42mm...offset???...What does all this have to do with and mean, I've always wondered....

Oh, and, prepreludesh, I finally got around to seeing your "best car" thread, and I want to know how hard it is to basically re-do an interior if it needs to be re-done, mine doesn't, but it looks really hard since it looks like you basically had to do that.
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I don't think a 215 on and 8" wheel would fit, but it certainly wouldn't be safe. If you were to hit a pot-hole 2" deep at more than 35mph, your tire would pop and ruin your nice rims. It's happened to some friends of mine(only it was on a truck with diff. wheel/tire sizes, but same issue).

Hey, can I ask an ignorant persons question? What does the 35mm, 42mm...offset???...What does all this have to do with and mean, I've always wondered....

Oh, and, prepreludesh, I finally got around to seeing your "best car" thread, and I want to know how hard it is to basically re-do an interior if it needs to be re-done, mine doesn't, but it looks really hard since it looks like you basically had to do that.



I believe that offset is like this... If you take a wheel and look at it head on (like you're looking at the tire thread) and if the hub surface where the hub of the wheel joined to the brake rotor were to be exactly in the center of the wheel, that would be 0 offset. The more you move that hub to the outside area of the wheel, you measure that from the imaginary "middle" section of the wheel where 0 offset would be and, in millimeters, that is what the offset would be.

So I think I answered my own question... since Kurt looks like he has wheels that have no lip, I be he has a 48 offset.

If you want a true deep dish wheel, you'll be looking to get a lower offset. Anybody agree with this?


And Pierce, although I think you're a total A-hole (like the man who invented rope), I'll just give you the advice that if you're doing an interior, you just need to have another person help you. Somethings take two sets of hands or if you have two sets of hands, it makes it that much easier. The carpet was the trickiest part of course, but It barely took us half a day to put in the carpet and the sparco harness bar. For the SIR headliner, that was a one man job surprisingly, but if you're going to put in the SIR sunscreen, that's a two man job because you're going to have to take the whole 50 lb sunroof assembly out of the car. The rear seat and front seats are a cinche and the center console is also very easy. I also did the rear C-Pillar bar by myself and that was a one man job as well.
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Thanks for the explanation, it helped a lot for future reference.

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......And Pierce, although I think you're a total A-hole.....

Hey, just doin my job. ...sorry, now I'm gonna try and be a normal person(unlike blacklude ) and act like my stupid comments were never made, hehehe. Sorry for all the **** I gave you.

Although I think the door sills were a waste of a buy, it seems like the rest of the car has been an uphill battle, and I congratulate you on that much, keep at it(...and everyone here against you will keep at you ).
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Thanks for the explanation, it helped a lot for future reference.




Hey, just doin my job. ...sorry, now I'm gonna try and be a normal person(unlike blacklude ) and act like my stupid comments were never made, hehehe. Sorry for all the **** I gave you.
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I can't believe you actually went through this thread and deleted all your replies, including your first post.

Except for this page

Paranoid much?
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Im selling my JDM door sills,there in great shape and only have some small scuff marks in the front corners.I had these for sale along time ago but decided to keep them. Asking $350 shipped

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I can't believe you actually went through this thread and deleted all your replies, including your first post.

Except for this page

Paranoid much?
Too bad they are still cached... maybe we should bring them back
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I think you should so that others might learn from his mistakes.
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maybe you should buy the other set of door sills and have a monopoly over them, then inflate the prices and make a profit

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I can't believe you actually went through this thread and deleted all your replies, including your first post.

Except for this page

Paranoid much?
1. Bring back quotes.
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I can't believe you actually went through this thread and deleted all your replies, including your first post.

Except for this page

Paranoid much?
whats funny, is his OP was quoted, so it doesnt even matter because its still there!
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