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Old 12-06-2012, 06:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Quick Question Motor Swap

I am ordering a type s h22a and 5 speed tranny, both from a type s lude. I am wanting to dump atts with the swap so if I get base model cv axles is everything alright? Or do I have to keep atts with the swap?
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Why are you buying a Type S H22A if you don't want ATTS?
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217 horsepower but I'm pretty sure I can put an intermediate shaft in the atts place
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The RH side axles are the same for Base & SH (despite different part numbers). The LH side is different.
I would just keep the atts system, as its made for the motor. other wise your going to have to make an adapter plate to mount the base half shaft, onto the sh block.
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217 horsepower but I'm pretty sure I can put an intermediate shaft in the atts place
There are other 217hp H22A's that you could have bought that come without the ATTS unit. You can make an adapter to add the shaft, but you will also need a new trans. I would just sell the Type S H22A and buy another H22A without the ATTS.
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So I need the Lh side sh axle to attach to the type a block?
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H22A TYPE S OBD 2 DOHC VTEC Engine & Manual 5 Speed Transmission 97+ - Honda & Acura


Does this have the sh block or the base? It comes with a tranny
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You want an S-spec if you are dead set on that motor. You'd also be better off buying it from Hmotors, Tiger Japanese is hit or miss.

On another note, have you considered the bluetop H23a? The extra ~20hp isn't worth the money for the s-spec....the extra low end torque on the H23a is IMO.
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H22A TYPE S OBD 2 DOHC VTEC Engine & Manual 5 Speed Transmission 97+ - Honda & Acura


Does this have the sh block or the base? It comes with a tranny
If you want to know for sure, ask for the block serial number. It's directly below the engine code.
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^ looks like type r engine more than type s

type s has 2 part intake manifold (same than other h22 preludes, but its factory ported)
type r has euro r intake manifold which is single casted

type s have atts transmission
sir s spec and type r have lsd transmissions

so type s engine



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type r

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Unless you can machine your own parts or you have someone that can do it for you cheap...you are going to have a hard time putting an SH (S) block on a base (SiR, EuroR) trans and install the axles properly.

The mounting locations for the ATTS unit and the jack shaft are very different between the two blocks.
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Does this have the sh block or the base? It comes with a tranny
Just get the Euro-R from H-Motors: http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc...age&item=30019
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Thanks for all off the help, the Euro r motor is what I'm looking for so that I can drop atts. I am dropping atts so that I can do a N/A build, and no I will not just sell my sh for a base because it just got painted last week and is verrrry clean.
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Where can I get the euro r 5 speed tranny then because it looks like hmotors doesnt have one.
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Also will the base model prelude axles be compatible with the euro r motor?
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Where can I get the euro r 5 speed tranny then because it looks like hmotors doesnt have one.
T2W4 Trans ($1500): Whats New At hmotorsonline.com®

Euro-R H22A ($1799): Whats New At hmotorsonline.com®

I have no idea why the trans is almost as much as the long block.
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Don't I need the SiR spec red top since mine is OBD2a?
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None of the red tops are OBD2a. I'm not trying to offend you or anything, but I'm going to assume you don't know a whole lot about engine swaps?
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Well this is something I'm new to, but I called H-motors and they told me for my swap I need to buy there SiR-S Spec because it is an OBD2a the same as mine, so the swap would be easier
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^ just do obd1 swap if youre going to build the motor anyway, that way you can tune your setup
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