I used to have engine mods on my prelude, such as an AEM CAI, and a APEX'i RS exhaust.
Ever since I got my Prelude back from the dealer with the stock parts back on, it seems to go A LOT faster than before. The torque and pull is extremely faster than I last remembered it.
I dont know what Honda did to my car, but whatever it was made my car faster.
Originally posted by PREYLUDE I used to have engine mods on my prelude, such as an AEM CAI, and a APEX'i RS exhaust.
Ever since I got my Prelude back from the dealer with the stock parts back on, it seems to go A LOT faster than before. The torque and pull is extremely faster than I last remembered it.
I dont know what Honda did to my car, but whatever it was made my car faster.
Preylude
I agree. CAI & Exhaust rob a lot of torque. But if you learn to adjust how you drive the car, you're actually better off with them than without. You just have to keep the revs high.
Thats what i thought. But the reason it feels faster is just because you have'nt driven it in awhile. I went from a sluggish truck to my lude after letting it sit for awhile and my lude feels like a rocket ship.
yeah, my car went to the dealership for warranty work, so i had replaced the aftermarket parts with stock parts.
It was at the dealership for a week only. The car feels a lot smoother and faster in stock format than with the aem cai, and apexi rs exhaust.
i recommend that people leave their cars stock, because it is tuned from the factory to give you the best performance possible.
no one going to listen though.
I may or may not put the cai and exhaust back on, but for now I am enjoying a stock lude. I'll have it lowered and put my r/h wheels back on in a month or so.
Originally posted by PREYLUDE yeah, my car went to the dealership for warranty work, so i had replaced the aftermarket parts with stock parts.
It was at the dealership for a week only. The car feels a lot smoother and faster in stock format than with the aem cai, and apexi rs exhaust.
i recommend that people leave their cars stock, because it is tuned from the factory to give you the best performance possible.
no one going to listen though.
I may or may not put the cai and exhaust back on, but for now I am enjoying a stock lude. I'll have it lowered and put my r/h wheels back on in a month or so.
preylude
Are you OK??? You are most likely just noticing the lower end lose of torque... lets not go crazy here...
Originally posted by PREYLUDE yeah, my car went to the dealership for warranty work, so i had replaced the aftermarket parts with stock parts.
It was at the dealership for a week only. The car feels a lot smoother and faster in stock format than with the aem cai, and apexi rs exhaust.
i recommend that people leave their cars stock, because it is tuned from the factory to give you the best performance possible.
no one going to listen though.
I may or may not put the cai and exhaust back on, but for now I am enjoying a stock lude. I'll have it lowered and put my r/h wheels back on in a month or so.
preylude
if that's true, then that should hold for the wheels and suspension. ya know, " ...because it is tuned from the factory to give you the best performance possible"
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if that's true, then that should hold for the wheels and suspension. ya know, " ...because it is tuned from the factory to give you the best performance possible"
no no, send it my way. I'm a poor college student on a budget. Some volks would look nice from my dorm room...with community bath...and no sink in my room...the tears are coming soon my friends, the tears are coming soon.
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he may be right...an exhaust or intake might actually lose HP...but I think bolt ons might just shift power around the power band...remember its easier to feel torque than HP..
Originally posted by ice1cube lose HP? how would it cause you to lose horse power.....i thot there was loss of low end torque but the gains come in the upper rpm range
thats what I meant by saying it shifts it around....an apexi N1 exhaust may lose 3HP below 4500rpms and gain 6HP above 7000RPM because the exhaust in lower rpms doesn't move as fast as the stock exhaust because of the gas cooling too fast. then existing at a lower velocity creating less of a vacuum. while more exhaust flows out it gains up top cause more volume of air can be moved at a high temp and high velocity creating a larger vacuum of air to be sucked in from the intake.
Better breathing always gives more hp and less torque, but it has nothing to do with gas temperatures.
For hp, you want maximum air flow - at both the inlet & exhaust. however, while better breathing increases hp (which is produced at high rpm); to increase torque you want to restrict inlet air flow - the exact opposite of what you want to do to produce hp!
So everything is a tradeoff - hence the Lude has heaps of hp, but dick-sh*t torque! You want torque? Buy a V-8 - the opposite - truck loads of torque, but low hp (as a rule)
Anyway, yeah, most cars are tuned *best* from the factory for the average joe. Want proof? How much can you dig out with CAI and other mickey-mouse add-ons? 10 hp max? You wanna play with the big boys? Buy a turbo. Nuff said.
Originally posted by US_HONDA Better breathing always gives more hp and less torque, but it has nothing to do with gas temperatures.
For hp, you want maximum air flow - at both the inlet & exhaust. however, while better breathing increases hp (which is produced at high rpm); to increase torque you want to restrict inlet air flow - the exact opposite of what you want to do to produce hp!
So everything is a tradeoff - hence the Lude has heaps of hp, but dick-sh*t torque! You want torque? Buy a V-8 - the opposite - truck loads of torque, but low hp (as a rule)
Anyway, yeah, most cars are tuned *best* from the factory for the average joe. Want proof? How much can you dig out with CAI and other mickey-mouse add-ons? 10 hp max? You wanna play with the big boys? Buy a turbo. Nuff said.
higher restriction means hotter gases leaving which means higher exhaust velocities at lower rpms...I was right
c'mon guys wheres your faith? its not that hard right?
i just wanted to know if anybody has ever done it yet
a stock 5th gen can easily dip into the very low 15's if driven right
i think with good cams,high compression (11.5 or maybe 12) and head work (maybe j.g) with the basic bolt ons will easily dip into the 13's.Also a tunable ecu would be nice,,,like maybe a 95 gsr's with hondata...oops forgot one thing tires
our motors are not made for turbo...i would never turbo a stock honda engine...sure they can make good power..but for how long??? i say only turbo the car if its built right.
by the way....superhondaonline had a 93vtec in the high 13'swith just bolt ons!!!
i dont know what happened to them...but ive seen the actual run on video...we are not that much heavier(except sh 's)
so it is possible
Originally posted by flybyeludegettingirls
higher restriction means hotter gases leaving which means higher exhaust velocities at lower rpms...I was right
Huh??? Higher restriction means hotter gases leaving which means higher exhaust velocities at lower rpms???? What???? What is your reasoning?
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