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Old 12-10-2009, 10:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Prelude 5th Gen Torque Steer

So me and my friend are having a argument on torque steer. so this is to the ppl who have a 5th gen prelude SH with a turbo. does your car have torque steer? it doenst matter if you have a LSD its all about how the front suspension is designed.
So can someone settle this for me? if you have a turbo 5th gen sh does your car have torque steer and how much WHP are you putting down?

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You are not going to find anybody with a type SH (with functional atts anyway) AND a turbo. The stock ECU (required to operate the ATTS system) cannot be used to tune a turbo setup.

And yes, it would torque steer. Badly. A turbo setup won't make a difference for torque steer, it will only make it more apparent during acceleration.
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comparing my type SH with my buddies rsx type-s. He has lots of torque steer and I have just about none. I don't think I have any, but I don't drive like a maniac either.
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Whether a car has equal length drive shafts would play a bigger role. Also ATTS will do nothing in a straight line anyway.
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i understand that a turbo and atts dont go together in any way. what im asking is does someone have a turbo with the SH design suspension. if so does the SH suspension get rid of the torque steer at higher powers. I have a stock sh and i have NO torque steer but i want to know if it stays that way with higher powers....
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No way to get rid of torque steer, you can just balance out the car with other suspension enhancements.

To say you have no torque steer means you probably didn't push the car enough. This is kind of like trying to get rid of understeer.
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No way to get rid of torque steer, you can just balance out the car with other suspension enhancements.

To say you have no torque steer means you probably didn't push the car enough. This is kind of like trying to get rid of understeer.
well maybe my prelude doenst have NO torque steer, but compared to my honda odyssy minivan or my dads 06 TL that has on several occasions tried to rip the steering wheel from my hand. i never even notice it even trying to with my prelude
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I notice it when driving hard in my '01 stock SE.
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i never even notice it even trying to with my prelude
Launch the prelude in an empty parking lot while barely holding the steering wheel...you will notice it then.
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torques steer is ridiculous in a prelude if you're really driving it hard. for a second, i saw torque and prelude in the same sentence and was like WTF??
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My 98 Prelude has lots of it when I use the nitrous. Keep a good grip on the wheel and be ready!
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I have a stock SH, when I get on it hard in second (about 3,500) and above the car will pull to the right
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in type sh technicians information atts guide thats a sticky in the 5th gen forum that everyone should have read, on page 37 it states "Superior handling was the primary design objective of the prelude SH model. to achieve this the front suspension was redesigned to counteract the normal tendancy of front wheel drive cars to "torque steer". that is, the tendancy to change steering direction when the power is applied in a turn. In most front wheel drive cars, the driver must correct for torque steer with additional steering input.The prelude SH model double joint front suspension ELIMINATES TORQUE STEER and the necessity for the driver to make steering corrections when applying power in a turn." some interesting information i think.
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^ you sir, are retarded. ^
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my car is teh awesomeness with double jointed front suspension!

dontbuyprelude, what I think you did was read an article then try to remember everything it said and that's what you typed. FYI, I believe every time you used the word "torque steer" you misinterpreted the word "understeer." If I substitute the word understeer into what you said, then it makes sense, but does not describe what torque steer does.
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in type sh technicians information atts guide thats a sticky in the 5th gen forum that everyone should have read, on page 37 it states "Superior handling was the primary design objective of the prelude SH model. to achieve this the front suspension was redesigned to counteract the normal tendancy of front wheel drive cars to "torque steer". that is, the tendancy to change steering direction when the power is applied in a turn. In most front wheel drive cars, the driver must correct for torque steer with additional steering input.The prelude SH model double joint front suspension ELIMINATES TORQUE STEER and the necessity for the driver to make steering corrections when applying power in a turn." some interesting information i think.
in my mind, the atts guide thats a sticky in the 5th gen forum that everyone should have read, on page 37 it states "Superior handling was the primary design objective of the prelude SH model. to achieve this the front suspension in conjuction with the ATTS unit was redesigned to counteract the normal tendancy of front wheel drive cars to "understeer". that is, the tendancy to change steering direction when the power is applied in a turn. In most front wheel drive cars, the driver must correct for understeer with lifting off the throttle.The prelude SH model double wishbone suspension coupled with the ATTS unit ELIMINATES UNDERSTEER and the necessity for the driver to make steering corrections when applying power in a turn." some interesting information i think
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i didnt paraphrase i typed it up word for word. i may have a small typing error but that is what the guide said. and besides, i didnt agree or disagree with that information, i merely stated that it was interesting. why dont you download it and check it out for yourself? its not like i pulled it from thin air. so feel free to read it
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uhmm, it says there it will reduce torque steer in a turn. I dont think the suspension setup will reduce torque steer from a straight line, like on launch.
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i did notice the torque steer in a turn later but i dont think im retarded. heres some more pages from the guide. [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG]
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