ok im seriousley thinkin of prelude type s engine swap - Honda Prelude Forum

0redlude1 · 09-16-2002, 08:48 PM

Ok im seriousley thinking of prelude type s engine swap. What do you guys think. If this is reliable than im prolly gonna do. what kind of 1/4 time do you think a type s with mugen exhaust, mugen headers, aem cai,koni yellows tein sport springs, strut bars, nology wires, nology ignition amp, one step colder plugs, zex 65 shot kit. oh yeah 01 ss. Still saving money any suggestions on a reliable way to make my car faster for seven or eight grand.

Modern Angel · 09-16-2002, 08:56 PM

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Originally posted by 0redlude1
oh yeah 01 ss. Still saving money any suggestions on a reliable way to make my car faster for seven or eight grand.

Get a manual transmission.

PrElUdE88 · 09-16-2002, 09:05 PM

with 7-8 grand... buy yourself a crx or civic ... and drop a vtec motor in it... that way you can have 2 cars.... a daily driver and an balls out one.... thats what i would do if i had 7-8 grand to spend....

influx · 09-16-2002, 09:10 PM

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Originally posted by PrElUdE88
with 7-8 grand... buy yourself a crx or civic ... and drop a vtec motor in it... that way you can have 2 cars.... a daily driver and an balls out one.... thats what i would do if i had 7-8 grand to spend....

hell ya that sounds good
or just pimp your **** out redo everything and fit some 19s on ur car

Q9erLude · 09-16-2002, 09:14 PM

You do realize that the Type S engine alone is around $5k and the Aem CAI, Mugen Headers and exhaust brings you to $7k already, right? Plus the engine swap price. Anyhow, I think the Type S engine only comes in a 5-speed manual. My thinking comes from the fact that the Type S engine comes with ATTS.

Not sure about 1/4 times or any other performance numbers.

blackbb6 · 09-16-2002, 09:18 PM

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Originally posted by PrElUdE88
with 7-8 grand... buy yourself a crx or civic ... and drop a vtec motor in it... that way you can have 2 cars.... a daily driver and an balls out one.... thats what i would do if i had 7-8 grand to spend....

Yup!

RJs99TypeSH · 09-16-2002, 10:06 PM

With 7-8 grand if you wanted to do the install yourself you could make a reliable 1/4 runner out of your car ( faster than the Type-S motor will get you ) just by buying a Jackson Racing Super charger. That will cut you about 4 grand, and you'll still have room for a mild bottom end build up if you want it. You could also go the turbo route, but that is often a more picky setup.

Forced induction often gets a bad rap as being unreliable, causing premature wear, and causing a whole myriad of problems, but all you really need to do is take good care of the car, make sure you retard the timing properly, and potentially lower the compression. The H22 really is a pretty strong motor. If you were to go the extra step and have some better pistons+rods put in, and have everything re-seated and blueprinted (tight squeeze for 3K, but possible), you could make a very nice Lude; and not worry about it blowing up on you.

At the same time, you would be able to go balls out in a junker if you wanted to

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R.J.

0redlude1 · 09-16-2002, 10:10 PM

its just all the jackson racing blown motors only from 6 that scares me badly. I would love to supercharge it put cant afford to lose my car.

redlude2k1 · 09-16-2002, 10:11 PM

i dont think the Type S motor from japan will even pass US emissions ...

w0rdie · 09-16-2002, 10:21 PM

Yup.... another reason n02 owns jrsc (lol) the big list of blown motors at 6 psi in the FI forum.. and the lack of ANONE who blew a motor up with juice.

RJs99TypeSH · 09-16-2002, 10:45 PM

There is no question that F.I. requires a lot more time and money than giggle juice.

I myself have been looking at NO2 kits simply because of the economical stand point, and the fact that I live right next door to a speed shop (and I never even knew it, lol).

With 7k though, you should have NO problems building a motor that runs a nice long life with turbo/super. I would be careful how much boost you put on without doing ANYTHING else. The motor is strong, but it's also high-strung and high-compressioned. I am a sucker for forced induction mostly because of the tight integrated feel it provides versus nitrous - but it is honestly hard to justify the price.

As far as no one blowing their motor with NO2, that is generally true, although theoretically a properly built forced induction setup generating the same horsepower as a NO2 setup should face the same wear and tear, and should be just as stable.

The main reason that people have such problems with the JRSC and turbo kits is because they don't take care of the proper mundane details in the buildup, like timing the motor down, and possibly spacing the head with a gasket to lower compression. You lose some HP in the mix, but you'll make a much, much more stable motor.

WHATEVER you decide, make sure you pay attention to the clutch. I've had too many give way because I ignored them after boosting up cars.

R.J.

01ludesh · 09-17-2002, 12:38 AM

wow RJ....whats your job...you seem to know a lot about boosting cars...and all the details...haha good job

Ludatic · 09-17-2002, 02:37 AM

buying a new engine for an extra 20 hp???

i wouldn't do it for that much money..

pearl type sh · 09-17-2002, 08:36 AM

my buddy has a 4g w/ a full type s motor swap. 6 grand installed.

for the $$ that you want to spend i assume you have an SS lude.
do a manual swap and turbo it. wala....way better than just a type s motor. yes you will get more props if you have a full type s motor but most turbo ludes or ludes on the bottle will beat you.
IMO

red98lude · 09-17-2002, 08:44 AM

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Originally posted by w0rdie
Yup.... another reason n02 owns jrsc (lol) the big list of blown motors at 6 psi in the FI forum.. and the lack of ANONE who blew a motor up with juice.

Don't say that

I'm blaming you if my motor goes with the 70 shot

preludeVTec · 09-17-2002, 09:10 AM

with all that money ...y dont u sell your car
and add the money you have and get a different car
with better engine y dont u?
like SUPRA?

imo

97blacklude · 09-17-2002, 09:55 AM

Personally this is what i would do:
pts kit
tc at 3000 rpms
build top and low end
pistons, etc
jrsc
basic bolt ons (exhaust/header)

and u will have a fast lude

azninside · 09-17-2002, 10:41 AM

I'd avoid the Type S engine cuz it's too much money for such a little result....if you got the money to waste an you're not really concerned w/ actual speed/power, then go for it. If you just want to be able to say that you did it, then go for it.

I think that if I were going to do that, I'd wait til my engine blew completely an needed to be replaced, that way you're not wasting as much money cuz you had to do it anyway :

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I think I'd just stick to a manual swap w/ a JRSC

MJShelgosh · 09-17-2002, 11:15 AM

Not to get off topic... but yesterday I was tricked into a small battle with a 4th gen who claimed all he had was an SI. Come to find out after my ass got smoked running a 50 shot in a 5th gen.. he has a Type S motor in t.. so he claimed.. and I dont doubt him considering the shop that put it in, the look of the engine, and the fact he won by about 1 and 1/2 car lengths... I was humbled.. but reallly impressed. Afterwards we pulled over and talked for a bit so its all good.. Dont get me wrong.. I think we should have had a re-match but I think he would have won again considering his weight reduction and other mods. He claimed to be putting 206 to the wheels. It was impressive to say the least...

Now I'll be stepping up to a 70 or 80 shot...here pretty soon,!!

0redlude1 · 09-17-2002, 11:26 AM

how much does a transmission swap cost? Is this reliable? Can someone tell me for sure if the type s is emissions legal or not. Im not looking for the fastest lude out there im just tryin to have something fast and reliable and clean as hell.