I got a 99 prelude h22a4 170km. I want to keep this car for as long as I possibly can but at the same time I want to make a fast daily driver. I have no clue as to how you would modify it. So my question is can you guys tell me how I should go about modifying it to make it quicker, and making it a daily driver also
Researching what you want to do to your vehicle is half the fun. Remember to keep up on preventative maintenance. A 14 year old car will want it's fair share of new seals, belts, pumps, etc.
Yeah thats true I never thought about just getting it upto date. I thought just getting the engine mods would've been fine. Recently I've been having a problem with the car not turning on every time I turn it off, even with a new battery.
as far as upgrades are concenrned. you need to go stage by stage..
stage 1
stage 2
stage 3
now as other members said that researching and then doing is half the fun, so search on the net what is included in these stages, and then regarding your engine and car specific upgrades.. good luck, but yes u need to change the things which "That 01 BB6" mentioned.. also not to forget in-tank fuel pump, as many people forget that their is a pump and a filter in there too...
as far as upgrades are concenrned. you need to go stage by stage..
exept its much cheaper to build whole engine over again at once, you can get discounts when you do bigger purchases and you dont have to tune your car that many times AND you dont have to replace seals/gaskets again which you already have done
i agree, with the way of going you suggested, but as the guy who asked the question is new, i didn't flood him with any info which he cant digest, but yeah doing all at one is light on the pockets... i know some cases in my country, the lads build the whole engine at once from a stock engine, just bought the car and did that, after he got the car back it was a sudden jump of 200HP so a total of around 380hp in total, they didn't knew how the car would handle, and how to control so they killed the car in a crash... so i never suggest any new owner of any car to go get that power at once.. just my opinion... but otherwise financially yes, doing it all at once is cheaper.. plus in-tank fuel pumps are fine, but the filter needs to be changed depending on the quality of fuel sold in your region.
so i never suggest any new owner of any car to go get that power at once.. just my opinion...
you dont get that much power to na h22's... its "easy" to get around 250hp but after that you need to throw f*king much money and knowledge into the game to go further
Yeah thats what I dont understand though, when you say build your whole engine over. Do you mean getting a new motor and then upgrading it, or by taking what I have and bringing it up todate with new parts.
I've read somewhere on a forum that the preludes dont hold up too well with a turbo or supercharger set up. Something to do with the pistons not being able to hold the pressure or something like that ?
Yeah thats what I dont understand though, when you say build your whole engine over. Do you mean getting a new motor and then upgrading it, or by taking what I have and bringing it up todate with new parts.
intake, intake manifold, cams, valvetrain, pistons, header, exhaust, cat, injectors, ecu.... you have to upgrade (buy better ones) them all to get power to these cars
of course you have to rebuild your engine while youre changing those parts with new gaskets/seals/timing belt parts/clutch and so on
theres no "new" engines to our cars. its impossible to say how much miles the "new" engine has when you get one. so its pretty pointless IMO when you have to (or its wise) rebuild it anyway with new parts (you dont know how long it has been in some warehouse - rubber seals dry when you dont use the engine and then it leaks from everywhere if you dont new them)
as far as upgrades are concenrned. you need to go stage by stage..
stage 1
stage 2
stage 3
now as other members said that researching and then doing is half the fun, so search on the net what is included in these stages, and then regarding your engine and car specific upgrades.. good luck, but yes u need to change the things which "That 01 BB6" mentioned.. also not to forget in-tank fuel pump, as many people forget that their is a pump and a filter in there too...
WTF? This isn't Gran Turismo or Forza. There are no "staged" upgrades.
Best thing you could do is figure out what your intentions are for the car.
Get the car freshened up with new seals, gaskets, etc on the engine/trans and don't forget the chassis - bushings, ball joints, shocks...
Once you are to that point, take it to do what you want to do and figure out from there where you next course of action should be. If you are wanting to autoX or DE...I'll guarantee you won't start with engine mods.
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As a matter of fact, in our part of the world, IHE is called the stage one upgrades, however there are more things too, i refered to that bcoz i thought maybe he'll get it. anyways just for sharing, in Pakistan we really do have stages for upgrades, which everyone finds easy to understand, coz if some dude asks what did u get or some dude want to tell what he had put in, so they just say Stage 1,2 or 3 so the other person or group knows what he is talking about, its easy to just say stage 2 rather than explaining the whole list, we do that in our country. i dont know where this concept came from but i think that is the same reason why ACT also say Stage 1 clutch or stage 2 clutch, bcoz there is a reason why the stage 1 clutch cant go with the set of upgrades for stage 2. thats my understanding of this stage thingy.
you can say "Street/Weekend Warrior" = stage 1
AutoX = stage 2
Road Course = stage 3
Drag Strip = stage 4
just for the understanding of this concept. its not about Gran turismo or forza.. and this concept was here in our region much before these Games came out.
its easy to just say stage 2 rather than explaining the whole list, we do that in our country.
IMO thats just misleading. because if "stage 2" includes better cams - there is many set of cams (some better than others) so "stage 2" really doesnt say anything about the car. the engine could be total disaster even if you call it "stage 2" if its builded with totally wrong parts. I need facts and facts come from specific parts
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but i think that is the same reason why ACT also say Stage 1 clutch or stage 2 clutch, bcoz there is a reason why the stage 1 clutch cant go with the set of upgrades for stage 2.
nope theyre just all about the torque specs. stage 1 is for NA street cars, stage 2 high power NA/turbo, stage 3 high power turbo cars
because with your method you'll get too hardcore clutch for "your stage 2" car if youre going with stage 2 clutch there
its easier for customer to figure out what kind of clutch hes looking in this way
Ive read that stage 3 is pretty useless for a car unless your going to be racing it. The type of hardware going into the car wouldnt be useful for daily driving. What do you guys think about that ?
Also my main goal for the car is alotta power under the hood like close to 400mph if not 400. Long life for the car, and it being a daily driver.
Also for these stages do you have to go through 1 before buying the set up for stage two. If they have the same parts shouldnt you go to the higher stage because its a better quality part
Ive read that stage 3 is pretty useless for a car unless your going to be racing it. The type of hardware going into the car wouldnt be useful for daily driving. What do you guys think about that ?
depends how much torque youre having there that does it NEED that kind of clutch
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Originally Posted by sunnyprelude
Also my main goal for the car is alotta power under the hood like close to 400mph if not 400. Long life for the car, and it being a daily driver.
so youre going to turbo it. whats the point of having 400-500hp fwd car, its not fast anymore when theres no grip, you have to build your suspension/traction/drivetrain to match that power and if you have to ask these things here you dont have what it takes to make reliable turbo setup! or even turbo setup in that matter
cheap, fast, reliable <------ you can only pick two.
and when you have that kind of setup under your hood its far from reliable DD (or dd anyways)!
and that kind of reliable turbo setup takes something like 7-10k money. you have to sleeve the block and so on
your goal is pretty unrealistic there unless you have tons of cash laying around there
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