my car was broken into - Page 2 - Honda Prelude Forum

Storm_Rider · 02-09-2009, 03:04 AM

its as shimee said. i was under the impression i would be in immediate danger trying to protect my property or ward off the perps. at the very least, i thought there were 3 (turns out to be at least 5 or 6) and there had to be at least one or two screw drivers and some kind of wratchet or bar. and if you think i'm going out there with an equal weapon, you can think again. and i'd flat out call you stupid if you went empty handed. yes, more than likely a screaming voice will make them flee, but why tempt fate. and 3 or more against me with a non projectile kind of weapon, i still think i am at a disadvantage.

and anyways, i don't think i said anywhere they actually saw my sword. i had to chase after them the whole time so my sword was never drawn.

why is flailing your arms and screaming with a weapon too much? if i didn't do at least that, how could i claim insanity if i did do something regrettable? lol

G_Loc · 02-09-2009, 07:19 AM

You guys can think and hypothesize all you want about what you'll say if / when the cops show up, but the fact of the matter is, if you chase off people who are breaking into your car with a weapon in your hand, they can easily turn that around and say you threatened them and that they weren't doing anything wrong, just hanging out. You guys from Commiefornia and Taxachusetts should be more wary of your laws and regulations since both those are pretty silly nanny states.

Self Defense is a human right

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Massachusetts law takes the position that if you are not within the walls of your home, you MUST make every attempt to escape or avoid all confrontation with an aggressor before your right of self defense arises. The basic difference between self defense inside your home and outside your home is that inside your home, you have no duty to retreat. Outside your home you must retreat if you can do so safely

Find me a state law that says you can threaten someone who is breaking into your car. Hell even here in Florida, with its pretty good self defense laws, you cannot use or threaten to use lethal force against someone unless they are in your home or if you are in fear for your life. Up until ~3 years ago, if someone threatened you with bodily harm, you would need make an attempt to run away first before trying to defend yourself.

We all value our cars and personal possessions, but we sometimes need to step back and think. Cars and stereos can be replaced, the legal headaches and possible injuries caused by doing something stupid to save a $300 head unit aren't so easy to erase. So look up your state laws regarding this matter and educate yourselves before you go running after perps with a pellet gun or a sword (again)

98auto · 02-09-2009, 10:16 AM

Yea, here in Az it's the "last frontier". You can use deadly force on a home intruder, but you then have to prove you felt your life was in danger. So, if someone breaks into your house in az and you kill them, better make sure they have a weapon on them

. But for the cars, I wouldn't be able to go outside and pull my .45 on them. They could turn around and press charges on me for brandishing a firearm. Its stupid, I know. Think of how crime would drop if someone would be taking their life into their own hands if they were caught stealing a $200 cd player? I think these scum would think twice about it.

Shimee · 02-09-2009, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by G_Loc

You guys can think and hypothesize all you want about what you'll say if / when the cops show up, but the fact of the matter is, if you chase off people who are breaking into your car with a weapon in your hand, they can easily turn that around and say you threatened them and that they weren't doing anything wrong, just hanging out. You guys from Commiefornia and Taxachusetts should be more wary of your laws and regulations since both those are pretty silly nanny states.

Self Defense is a human right

Find me a state law that says you can threaten someone who is breaking into your car. Hell even here in Florida, with its pretty good self defense laws, you cannot use or threaten to use lethal force against someone unless they are in your home or if you are in fear for your life. Up until ~3 years ago, if someone threatened you with bodily harm, you would need make an attempt to run away first before trying to defend yourself.

We all value our cars and personal possessions, but we sometimes need to step back and think. Cars and stereos can be replaced, the legal headaches and possible injuries caused by doing something stupid to save a $300 head unit aren't so easy to erase. So look up your state laws regarding this matter and educate yourselves before you go running after perps with a pellet gun or a sword (again)

thanks detective, but i'm pretty aware of what the laws in my state entail. i don't need some gun-nut site to tell me my laws favor the intruder more than me.

if you're going to defend a point you don't fully understand (like you know ..... instead of thinking you know about my state, use your state as an example.) then use claims from something legitimate, like the MA charter of laws. there's a difference between "self defense" and "defense of property." unfortunately in MA the latter relies on many things - self defense unfortunately - and there's no single paragraph that defines "defense of property." however, if you could read as good as you can argue, you'd realize that i also mentioned about verbal defense; no, verbal doesn't immediately entail "threatening someone." if you go out, raise your voice, and approach the perps telling them to "GET THE **** OFF MY PROPERTY!," nothing will happen to you. that's the law defending your right to dismiss trespassers. then you run inside like a little puss.

but you showed you're a prick enough to assume that i'm some dumb blind old bat that isn't aware of the power trip these pricks in blue have here.

Storm_Rider · 02-10-2009, 02:11 AM

nice shimee, now tell him something about CA for me cause i don't know what the law says. though i know the law told me they can't do anything for me even though i have their license plate number and can ID the car easily.

nice time i'll just bring an axe and say i went to get firewood because it's friggin cold.

G_Loc · 02-10-2009, 06:53 AM

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but you showed you're a prick enough to assume that i'm some dumb blind old bat that isn't aware of the power trip these pricks in blue have here.

With responses like the ones you have given in this thread....

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your sword reminded me of what i'd use in a situation like that. it's a pellet gun that looks like a real rifle, especially with the scope on it. although screaming like a mad man might do more damage.

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no its just a regular pellet rifle. doesn't look too intimidating with the cheap iron sights, but i wouldn't want to risk it with the scope and a dimly lit situation. the scope barrel is about the size of a quarter. (scope barrel?)

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not in defense of property or land. (We're discussing VEHICLES here)

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exactly, you say you thought your home or family could have been at risk.

You gave me reason to believe that you are "some dumb blind old bat." If you think my response was harsh and prick-like, then you should venture out into the real world

Atleast I didn't venture down to the level of name calling

And yes you did mention verbal "defense," but only after bragging about your intimidating pellet rifle

Shimee · 02-10-2009, 03:23 PM

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(scope barrel?)

a [steel] tube where the length is greater than its diameter is generally called a "barrel." what's the problem?

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(We're discussing VEHICLES here)

and through deductive reasoning you can make the judgment that i characterized 'VEHICLES' as either land or property. property is defined as .... ?

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You gave me reason to believe that you are "some dumb blind old bat." If you think my response was harsh and prick-like, then you should venture out into the real world

Atleast I didn't venture down to the level of name calling

Ahhh yes ...

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LOL

Read up on the laws young one

if we're talking about real world ethics here, how would you deduce a condescending, mocking tone would play over with someone?

instead of correcting me, you leave yourself vague and mock me. (BUT YUO LEFYT AND WINKY SMILEY SO THAT MAEKS IT OK, AMIRITE!?/) You set yourself up for a dumb argument and you couldn't even structure out your points or defend them properly. In fact, you ignored 90% of my last post and chose to focus on my little quip. Yeah, i sure was the offended one.

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And yes you did mention verbal "defense," but only after bragging about your intimidating pellet rifle

you have 3000-something posts and you're honestly telling me you have no grasp of sarcasm or jest? what happened to "this isn't real life; grow a skin; take everything with a grain of salt." the only thing i'd brag about is how the pellets bounce off skin.

now quit driving this so far off that a mod will have to lock it.

oh and storm rider, just fence off your lude and hang up a sign that says "no trespassing. violaters will be stabbed. survivors will be shot." or thereabouts. but make sure to check with your local charter though.

bboixtc · 02-10-2009, 04:59 PM

Well at least they didn't take anything. My beater was broken into. Well they slimjimmed the lock and they took my blackberry storm which i stupidly left on the seat. They took my ash tray filled with no more than $3.00 in change, and that was it. They didn't pop the trunk or take the two laptops worth over 2k, the wifey's graphing calc or anything. Just the change and phone.

Luckily I have insurance and got my new phone today. =)

Storm_Rider · 02-10-2009, 06:15 PM

i'm glad to hear you came out with minimal damages.

i can't fence my car because i park it in a car port and my neighboring cars, one a giant truck, would not appreciate it. though the thought crosses my mind many times over the past 4 years.

you two stop bickering. you're making my crappy thread even crappier and stealing my spotlight.

G_Loc · 02-10-2009, 06:47 PM

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you two stop bickering. you're making my crappy thread even crappier and stealing my spotlight.

Aww, but I had a response all thought up for his previous post

Just be sure to use better judgment before running after multiple thieves with a sword, not just for your own personal safety, but you might find that the law isn't on your side in such instances. That's why its always best to educate yourself on your state's self / property defense laws

Can you mount motion sensing lights near your parking spot? Its not much, but at least it will attract attention to any movement near your car. Might also want to look into a siren with a battery backup, maybe a battery backup system for your alarm if you don't have one already, and relocating the siren to somewhere that isn't easily accessible (inside the wheel wells, for example)

Shimee · 02-10-2009, 06:52 PM

rickbean · 02-10-2009, 11:08 PM

Dint know PO was a law school too....

Shimee · 02-11-2009, 03:32 PM

it's a whore house as well. who knew.

sask-lude · 02-12-2009, 06:45 AM

you can buy crack in the classifieds too