I need some final advice on my 5-spd oil change. long story short, a while back I heard from some of you that if it has been too long, that changine the oil on a my tranny might be worse than just letting it run with old oil, because it may cause a leak that is a bigger hassel and issue.
I ask this because lately, my transmittion isn't grinding, but for some reason, I don't remember it being so hard to shift into 1st and 2nd. i know you're all think, "thats the way it should be", but It wasn't like this when I bought the car, at least i think it wasnt .It just doesn't slide into first very easily when going very slow like it used to, and it locks me out at astop WAY more than it used to; I have to slide it into 2nd, and for some reason then it leats me slide into first, IT DIDN'T DO THAT BEFORE, it just started this wierdness a couple months ago, and it also does it even when its warm.
So I think it's due for a fluid change, but is it worth it. I know I made a big deal on switching to synth, not I'm makin a big deal on changine my tranny fluid, but I need some light shed.
Also, I have read a ridiculous amount of threads(some dating back 5 years) on mtf to use. Some say OEM, and others suggested stuff from GM, others went for aftermarket. It seems like there were many dissagreements, what should I use. I'm not looking for high perf, I'm looking for stock and longevity of my Transmission.
i ran gm synchromesh and then the pennzoil synchromesh in my 99' base lude for most of it's life (179,000). no problems at all. i think the gm stuff seemed to hold up a little longer but the pennzoil was much cheaper.
Ok, but is it safe to do it after its been a really long time. I havent don'e it to my lude yet(I',ve owned it for almost 20K miles), and who knows how long it was since the last owner did it.
I guess I will use GM oil, but I still don't know if it will cause leaks since it may not have been done for possibly a very long time.
Ok, so I did some searchin and found that there is a drain plug and a checking plug for the tranny. Now, I take it that the check plug is also the filler, right?
I also read that if the fluid is black, thats how you know you need to change it. do you just stick your finger in the hole to look at it on your finger, and if it is at least really dark, you need to change it? O don't thibk you'd be able to see the oil coplexsion from a little hole, heheh.
Ok, so I did some searchin and found that there is a drain plug and a checking plug for the tranny. Now, I take it that the check plug is also the filler, right?
I also read that if the fluid is black, thats how you know you need to change it. do you just stick your finger in the hole to look at it on your finger, and if it is at least really dark, you need to change it? O don't thibk you'd be able to see the oil coplexsion from a little hole, heheh.
Thanks a lot all.
Yes there is a drain plug and a fill plug. The fill plug is to the right and up (if you're under the car) of your tranny and the drain is on the bottom. Always Always Always take the fill plug out first(trust me) you wouldn't want to drain the fluid and then find out you cant get the fill plug out. Do you plan on doing this on your own? If you can change your oil you can do this.
How many miles does your car have? Not sure who told you not to change the fluid if it has been to long but that is really stupid, that would be like me telling you not to change the motor oil if its been to long.
I wouldn't use anything other than Honda MTF, there is a reason why Honda's last so long.
there's also a small plug in the engine bay under the intake to help fill er back up if you are silly enough to drain it on an incline like i did and cause problems refilling the same amount you took out.
Thatnk you guys so much, the info you guys gave me is a huge help and is exatcly what I was wanting to know. Yeah, that "don't change if it's been too long" sounded really fishy and stupid to me too, and thats why I asked... I wasn't sure what to think of that statement.
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there's also a small plug in the engine bay under the intake to help fill er back up if you are silly enough to drain it on an incline like i did and cause problems refilling the same amount you took out.
Is this plug a different plug than the filler plug redJDMlude told me about? I take it that it is. Thanks as I might need to use it, or just find it for knowledges sake(although I really don't wanna take all that crap out of the way).
Thanks again for all the replies, I'm gonna do it in the next couple of weeks. By the way, where might I be able to find Homda MTF? Anywhere else other than the dealer? And how much do I need, someone said once that you should get 2 to 3 times what you really need, but that it's expensive...(the story was that when doing it, the right way to do it was to drain it, then flush it out with one more full fill, then drain it again, then fill one last time and that cleans out the tranny of any bad oil[or at least most of it)....OK, finished .
Thatnk you guys so much, the info you guys gave me is a huge help and is exatcly what I was wanting to know. Yeah, that "don't change if it's been too long" sounded really fishy and stupid to me too, and thats why I asked... I wasn't sure what to think of that statement.
Actually there's some truth behind that statement. Cars with high mileage that have had fluid in the system for an extremely long period of time are prone to slipping or even failure if you were to replace the fluid. This is due to the fact that the fluid in the transmission has become dirty and gritty. This gritty fluid is actually providing needed friction for the worn internal parts of the transmission. Changing the fluid removes this friction that the internal transmission parts have become dependent on. Keep in mind we're talking like more on the lines of >80k with out a change.
I've had a friend who had an old car with high mileage and changed the fluid out. He didn't know if the previous owner did it or not. When went to drive and he lost the reverse gear, this was an automatic though.
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whatever essay I just watched the new Fast and Furious so I know what I'm talking about.
the story was that when doing it, the right way to do it was to drain it, then flush it out with one more full fill, then drain it again, then fill one last time and that cleans out the tranny of any bad oil[or at least most of it
Drive it to get the lubricant up to normal operating temp, remove the fill plug to relieve the pressure and check the level, drain and refill. Then drive it as normal and do a shorter drain interval - this would clean the trans better by circulating the lubricant at operating temp rather than just a simple flush.
Spin r g--Yeah man, see, its statements like that that scare me, but I have a stick...But still, the whole mileage issue is my problem, I don't know when the last time it was changed. it may have been done many many miles ago, as I bought it 20k miles ago and only know that the 90k mile service and the clutch was changed(I assume around 90k).
Lilbill--I have no clue...I think...yes, but like was stated above, it would probably need to have been a very long time...But I think your gonna have to make the same decision as me....go for it, because the longer you wait, the longer you wait, the more chances you WILL get the issues you're afraid of right now in the future when you do decide to take the risk.
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.It just doesn't slide into first very easily when going very slow like it used to, and it locks me out at astop WAY more than it used to; I have to slide it into 2nd, and for some reason then it leats me slide into first, IT DIDN'T DO THAT BEFORE, it just started this wierdness a couple months ago, and it also does it even when its warm.
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