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Old 03-22-2010, 06:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Looking into purchasing a 99 prelude...

I had some questions....kinda long lol, sorryyyyy......

The asking price for the car is $1600...

Basically it's a black 1999 prelude. It's the automatic with tiptronic... He bought it new in 99 and put 203,000 miles on it since. He said it was mostly highway driving to and from work. He said it runs fine but there is a transmission fluid leak somewhere. I know thats a bad thing on an automatic but I don't mind putting some money/work into the car if needed. He said he did the timing belt at 120k, and thats it. The radiator is new but I would probably do the timing belt and the water pump to be safe.... so I figure between that, thats a few hundred bones right there.

and that's not to mention if the tranny is shot. i didn't get to test drive it today due to nasty weather, but i'm going back tomorrow. According to the seller the transmission fluid leak is the only problem with the engine/motor. the only other thing is a broken hood latch that caused the hood to fly up and crack the the windshield plus some dings/dents.

about the fluid leak. he said he couldn't move forward so he reversed it back to his house and threw in some transmission fluid and his gears came back and it ran fine. then he also said there was a trail behind the car up the hill so im assuming its a pretty decent leak.

so basically; 1999, automatic, 203k, tranny fluid leak, timing belt/water pump not done/ new radiator, no hood latch. $1600


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I always liked the preludes. i know it has a lot of miles but i wouldn't mind fixing this up and holding on to for as long as i can. so i wanted some opinions....

between the timing belt and water pump only, how much am i looking at spending on parts and labor?

and based off what i said before, what is your opinion on the transmission? just a seal or could it be worse? if i need to get a new transmission how much would that cost?

what, if anything else, would you replace/repair and is it expensive?

its $1600 I just want to know if its worth the investment or if it is just going to be a giant money trap... thanks for the input!
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Old 03-22-2010, 06:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 03-22-2010, 06:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Man i would stay away from the triptronic system all together if you can, and not to mention the tranny leak - sounds like you will be putting a lot more than a couple hundred bucks into it over time, .. two words come to mind - Money Pit.
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That car is likely going to be a money pit. The auto tranny in 97-01 preludes is a piece of crap and frequently falls apart. The timing belt job is going to cost somewhere in the ballpark of $500 with labor. A tranny rebuild is going to cost a few grand. You're better off passing up that one and looking for a 5spd with fewer miles and less problems.
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Old 03-22-2010, 07:09 PM   #5 (permalink)
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OK So I know someone who will do all the work for me for free as long as I help them...

So for a water pump, a timing belt and a brand-dee new transmission how much am I looking to spend on parts? and is there any good sites I could buy from?
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Don't buy the car, as others have stated, wait for a 5pd that you will have more fun with anyway.
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Well, unless your mechanic buddy has a full machine shop you will still need to pay for at least part of the transmission rebuild. Even after said rebuild, that transmission is going to be weak and it will eventually fail again...could be at 10k miles or it could last 100k. It's impossible to guess the transmission's lifespan, but the auto prelude tranny is a known weakpoint that has shown itself to be unreliable over and over again. It is a defective. I would recommend you avoid it like the plague.

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Let me get this straight at least... If the leak is causing so much pressure loss that the car wouldn't go in Drive, the tranny is shot, yes?

edit: not just a seal or something? if the tranny isn't dead - yet - i might buy it and swap it for a 5spd eventually.. it would be like, a project car.....
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[QUOTE=RoyG;3109974] i might buy it and swap it for a 5spd eventually.. it would be like, a project car.....[/QUOTE]

Honestly from what ive read in your posts you are looking for a car to drive. most porject cars (properly done) are just that - projects, time sinks w/ a large lump of cash to keep going. Im not against anyone doing a project car, do it up i say! But if you are looking for a dependable vehicle, then from the knowledge that we know - stay away from this one!

If you want a prelude, then enjoy one,. get a 5spd - end of discussion there. There are numerous sites for us prelude owners and peeps always selling a lude here and there. Save your money and look for a good lude.
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Let me get this straight at least... If the leak is causing so much pressure loss that the car wouldn't go in Drive, the tranny is shot, yes?

edit: not just a seal or something? if the tranny isn't dead - yet - i might buy it and swap it for a 5spd eventually.. it would be like, a project car.....
This is like a horror movie - we're telling you not to go check out that noise outside . . . but sounds like you want to go anyway . . . even though the auto tranny is Freddy Krueger about to shred your you know what . Seriously, I hope you do heed the advice - you'll thank everyone on here later. The project that I recommend you invest in is learning how to drive a 5spd - will change your experience behind the wheel like you wouldn't believe. Besides, it's really not that hard. Either way, good luck with your decision.
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This is like a horror movie - we're telling you not to go check out that noise outside . . . but sounds like you want to go anyway . . . even though the auto tranny is Freddy Krueger about to shred your you know what .

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UPDATE: Well my two weeks is up in two days (Leaving my job.) Now I lack the motivation to drive nor do I have a way to keep up on insurance so I am not looking for a car to drive at the moment.

I want to buy it, plain and simple. This is the only prelude that is around my area. If I buy the car I will have enough left over to do the timing belt/water pump (which i'll wait to do until it's ready to drive.) and enough to completely rebuild the transmission + costs of labor. Other than these issues the car is in good condition.

I figure I can fix those problems and insure it once I get a new job then it should be good to go. aside from those problems its a mid 90s honda... how much of a money pit could it be?
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UPDATE: Well my two weeks is up in two days (Leaving my job.) Now I lack the motivation to drive nor do I have a way to keep up on insurance so I am not looking for a car to drive at the moment.
Maybe its the insomnia or my friend Mr. Walker who is valiantly trying to soothe me to sleep, but your reasons for buying this car don't make much sense to me. You're now unemployed and for some reason find yourself lacking the urge to drive, and lacking the funds to insure a car, yet you're dancing on the spot in anticipation to buy a car. Not just any car either, a car which over the past 13 years has built up a dubious reputation with regards to reliability.

I could see buying a reliable car in hopes that the mobility it would provide would increase your chances of employment. But to spend all that money on what will become very shortly a very stylish paperweight is something I can't quite wrap my head around.

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I want to buy it, plain and simple. This is the only prelude that is around my area.
If the only woman in your area was a prostitute, would you want to marry her too?

You already said you don't need a car right now, so why not wait and expand your search radius? I know there aren't Preludes on every street corner, but there has got to be something better within a reasonable distance of you.

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If I buy the car I will have enough left over to do the timing belt/water pump (which i'll wait to do until it's ready to drive.) and enough to completely rebuild the transmission + costs of labor. Other than these issues the car is in good condition.
Take it from someone who grew up around project cars and whom currently has one on the go:

1) Have a job or a trust fund. You will need it.

If you insist on a project car;

2) Find/buy the BEST base you can find. People sell cars cheap for a reason. The cheaper the asking price, the more it will cost you in the end. So whether you pay the seller 30% of the overall cost of what the car costs you in the end, or 90%, the piper will always have to be paid.

3) Budget, budget, budget.

3a) Scrap your budget and tack on 25-50% more than what you budgeted for.

4) Stock up on Advil, Aspirin, or Tylenol. You will have headaches galore.

5) Don't expect to be motoring any time soon.


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I figure I can fix those problems and insure it once I get a new job then it should be good to go. aside from those problems its a mid 90s honda... how much of a money pit could it be?
I remember I used to think that if I did the Carebears countdown, they would appear in those little cloud cars and we would roadtrip to go chill with ALF and the Golden Girls. It was a cool dream but it was based on childish idealistic naivete. It was also as practical as being unemployed, buying a car you can't afford to drive, and won't be able to drive, then banking on fixing with funds from a job you don't have yet.

You are your own master though, and you will do what you will do. Keep one thing in mind though; Project cars take time and money. An unemployed person has too much of one, and not enough of the other to pull it off.


BTW automatic Preludes suck harder than a supercharged Dyson.
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Everyone congratulate SnowAngel for her first helpful post.

Now that that is done, listen to reason. Do NOT buy that car.
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its a mid 90s honda... how much of a money pit could it be?


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BUY IT!!...to use as a parts car
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Went with a 240SX....

and that isn't a money pit?
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