Koni/Ground Control suspension installed with Billy's aluminum spring isolators - Honda Prelude Forum - Prelude Online.com
Honda Prelude Forum Honda Prelude Forum Header Right
» Auto Insurance
» Featured Product
» Wheel & Tire Center

» Log in
User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!
Go Back   Honda Prelude Forum - Prelude Online.com > Honda Prelude Discussion > Fifth Gen Prelude Discussion
Register Home Forum Active Topics Photo Gallery Mark Forums Read Advertise

PreludeOnline.com is the premier Honda Prelude Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 04-24-2009, 05:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
Supporting Member
PreludeOnline Premium Member
 
KahnBB6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 335
iTrader: (1)
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Koni/Ground Control suspension installed with Billy's aluminum spring isolators

A couple of days ago I had my Koni/Ground Control suspension installed with Billy's 6061-T6 aluminum spring isolators. At the same time I had both front lower control arms replaced since the bushings were completely shot. I opted to have a shop do it for me since I currently have few tools, little garage space and zero experience installing a suspension or using a spring compressor. I bit the bullet and actually learned a thing or two from the mechanic that I can use next time when I will try it myself. I had wanted to do an actual writeup with a full set of start-to-finish install pictures too :/

Impressions:

First, I'm very happy with the aluminum isolators. If anyone mentioned increased noise from these things (maybe I'm thinking of something else that I read) there is none. They just do their job and don't wobble around. The entire setup is very confidence inspiring (THANK YOU BILLY!!)

Where the worn (130k) OEM Type SH suspension used to have too much body roll and slow rebound that would absorb your accelerator and steering inputs and wobble over road imperfections, the Koni/GC suspension literally glides over these road details confidently, keeping you pointed exactly where you want to go.

The Konis are currently set at around 50% stiffness and the 400FR/325RR rates are exactly what this car should have come with from the factory. I also didn't lower the car very much-- it sits around 0.80" lower than stock in the front and only 1" lower in the rear and I'm very happy with this. It's near stock looking but MUCH better now that the 4x4 look is gone.

It is not at all harsh to drive. My first thought upon leaving the auto shop was that I actually went too safe with my front and rear rates and that I could stand an even stiffer 450FR/400RR ride on the street-- but this setup is very, very good. The Prelude feels like a real sportscar again and it loves to take turns with confidence. As the suspension settles and I get used to it I'll start experimenting with incrementally stiffer shock settings and later on I may do a stiffer set of springs.

Issues (very few):

I do slow down a bit more than usual for road bumps and dips and I'm even more careful than before about avoiding potholes but it's really not bad at all. The only thing that scared me was forgetting where I was for a moment and NOT slowing down for a notorious road dip near home and experiencing a loud metallic "POP" sound when the suspension rebounded. I was freaked out that I had blown one of my Konis but there was nothing wrong with the suspension afterward. I read that this is caused by a part of the suspension grabbing onto the hard plastic inner fender liner upon extreme compression and yanking free upon rebound. I'll see if an alignment cures this. If not I'll look into a camber kit or cutting part of the plastic fender liner.

Pictures:

Please forgive the quality. They're all from my iphone. I don't own a good digital camera.

I forgot to take a set of exterior pictures before the install, sorry! It was just the same as any stock Prelude.








And some detail pictures of the shocks with the aluminum isolators installed in the front shocks/springs and the rears. The mechanic had a Koni/GC setup on his Integra in the past and suggested I keep this tough looking rubber piece between the spring and the aluminum isolators to make the ride a little easier.

I thought about this and we compromised: I let him try it on just the front shocks but on the rears the springs directly contact the aluminum isolators. This way, if it really makes a difference or doesn't do anything at all, I will only need to get one end of the car changed to match the other. I'm not sure I notice any difference either way at the moment so I will probably have the rubber pieces removed later on.

Also, the bumpstops used are hard progressive Koni pieces rather than the OEM Honda parts.









__________________
1993 Lexus SC300 5-speed
KahnBB6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 05-14-2009, 12:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: DFW, TX
Posts: 9,182
iTrader: (1)
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Glad you liked them. I'd be willing to bet that you wouldn't have noticed much, if any, additional NVH if you didn't use the rubber pieces on the front. Now that you've driven on it for a bit, any other impressions?

Also, those are some HUGE pictures!
71dsp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2009, 01:56 PM   #3 (permalink)
woop woop!
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 3,269
iTrader: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Glad to see you still check up on this place. Lots of "new" tech questions for you to answer
__________________
-Steven

Quote:
Originally Posted by vile10
not to offend anyone but usually when you hear a loud noise but never see the car for a long while, that's probably a civic
SNsLude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2009, 02:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: DFW, TX
Posts: 9,182
iTrader: (1)
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Yeah, I'm still around here and there. I generally post on the local NTPOG board since there's only like 10 or 15 of us that post on that forum regularly, so we all know one another.
71dsp is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Honda Prelude Forum - Prelude Online.com > Honda Prelude Discussion > Fifth Gen Prelude Discussion


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
4th gen suspension koni yellow, ground control, energy coldfission Parts Classifieds 24 02-20-2009 12:06 PM
v6 in a 5th gen prelude uthinaia Fifth Gen Prelude Discussion 250 01-26-2009 12:23 AM
Members Rides Thread Paul H22 Members' Rides 72 02-15-2008 01:36 PM
Ground Control coilover owners: What are your spring specs? nighttime Autocross & Road Racing 40 02-12-2003 04:09 PM
Vincent Bly's STS Prelude Ground Control spring rates aklucsarits Autocross & Road Racing 39 02-07-2003 12:08 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:08 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.3.2