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Old 12-02-2001, 11:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Interesting comparison between RSX type S and Prelude from HONDA/ACURA

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Re: Interesting comparison between RSX type S and Prelude from HONDA/ACURA

I thought our cars were 10.8:1 compression with a 7200RPM redline?

And holy sh1t there's a CAR out there with a worse turning diamter then my car? I can turn a straight truck around better then my 'lude!
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Re: Re: Interesting comparison between RSX type S and Prelude from HONDA/ACURA

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And holy sh1t there's a CAR out there with a worse turning diamter then my car? I can turn a straight truck around better then my 'lude!
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yes preludes turning diameter SUCK S!!!

but i would figure that the RSX would be better becasue its a smaller car
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Re: Re: Interesting comparison between RSX type S and Prelude from HONDA/ACURA

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I thought our cars were 10.8:1 compression with a 7200RPM redline?
the 10.8 compression is the type s isnt it?

the rsx is like the lude cept lighter and faster... and uglier
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the 10.8 compression is the type s isnt it?

the rsx is like the lude cept lighter and faster... and uglier
psshh faster my ass, i have yet to be taken by one of those oversized mcdonalds toys!
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McDonald's, I thought they where a joint effort between Delorean, Tyco, and Taco Bell, unitl I saw that there was a Type-R version!
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.....7200RPM redline?
They are saying that is were it has the most power, not the redline.
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the H22A4 has 10.0:1 compression. JDM H22A is 10.6:1
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Ok, this may be a dumb question, but what makes the RSX-S faster? From the chart it seems like we make the same amount of HP, and more torque, at lower RPM.

Is it the weight? gearing? Or does the RSX lose less HP through the drivetrain?

Anyway, I agree that the RSX isn't that nice-looking. Taillights look cool at night, but that's about it.
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1)the RSX is probably more conservitavely rated. Many have said that the prelude is actually more like 190HP at the flywheel, and they just say 200 for marketing.

2) the RSX does indeed loose less power through the drivetrain. This is one of the RSXs nicer points

3) 6 speed manual helps accelleration a bit i would imagine

4) lastly, that sucker is pretty light. Probably an easy 200 pounds lighter than the lude.
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RSX-S arent that fast, I've beaten one 3 times. The car does seem fast when you are driving it (illusion...weight difference).
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what's so interesting about it?
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From what i understand the RSX is suppose to weigh in at around 2550lbs and I know my car weighs in at 2940(the truck scale told me so). So the weight difference should be a good factor. The illusion probably comes from the 6 speed gear box being a little more aggressive feeling than the 5 speed. I haven't raced one yet, but hopfully I will soon. I've been kind of wondering if they were faster than us ludes or not, now I know!
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From what i understand the RSX is suppose to weigh in at around 2550lbs and I know my car weighs in at 2940(the truck scale told me so). So the weight difference should be a good factor. The illusion probably comes from the 6 speed gear box being a little more aggressive feeling than the 5 speed. I haven't raced one yet, but hopfully I will soon. I've been kind of wondering if they were faster than us ludes or not, now I know!
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RSX-S arent that fast, I've beaten one 3 times. The car does seem fast when you are driving it (illusion...weight difference).
They're fast if the driver is any good. Having driven the RSX and RSX-S hard (thanks to the Acura salesguy that let me drive them that way), straight-line acceleration is impressive. No lag that I could find in nearly any driving condition. My VTEC feels antiquated in comparison. Handling is decent for stock, but would greatly improve as aftermarket suspension parts come out for it.

The looks STILL don't do it for me.

Also, the Prelude Type S' compression ratio is 11.0. The SiR is 10.6. If andrewdelvard (who has the REAL Type S) doesn't post about it here, here's an article on the Type S: http://www.hyakushiki.com/reads/type-s/index.html
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psshh faster my ass, i have yet to be taken by one of those oversized mcdonalds toys!
same here...and yes they were type-s's..not the base model which we know is no chance with a prelude
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The RSX-S that I raced belongs to my friend and I have driven his car several times, the I-VTEC engagement seems to be a bit smoother, but I still love the feel of my H22A hitting VTEC.
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From what i understand the RSX is suppose to weigh in at around 2550lbs and I know my car weighs in at 2940(the truck scale told me so). So the weight difference should be a good factor. The illusion probably comes from the 6 speed gear box being a little more aggressive feeling than the 5 speed. I haven't raced one yet, but hopfully I will soon. I've been kind of wondering if they were faster than us ludes or not, now I know!
The RSX is closer to 2750. There is no illusion about a 6 speed being faster than the 5 speed. More gears allow for better gear ratios in every gear, making the car faster.

Based purely on stats (weight, power, gearing) the RSX-S is faster than a Prelude. Driving skill and mods probably account for those times a Prelude beats a Type S.
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I wouldn't worry about it too much, anyhow... A few years of engine refinement and a 6-speed ought to improve things, right?

The way I see it, the Prelude has about 10% more weight, and 10% more peak torque than the RSX-S. The Prelude might be able to even things a bit on the high end with the usual mods, but neither car will likely gain much street-legal midrange torque (without FI), so it's functionally a wash.

A common complaint about the RSX-S seems to be that the new compact rear double-wishbone setup doesn't keep the car planted nearly as well on bumpy surfaces. It's an interesting tradeoff, given that Honda had several years to think about this particular problem. I, for one, choose the Prelude in particular for its sure-footedness on back roads, not for it's stoplight-burning ability.

If you absolutely have to beat all the Integra/RSX drivers in a straight line (heh, the Type-R is a bigger threat anyway!), get some serious tires and a supercharger, and make the most of your displacement advantage.

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