Ingalls camber kit - Honda Prelude Forum

Bluluded · 02-23-2003, 07:21 PM

My friend gave me brand new Ingall camber kits. I'm dropped 1.5 inches all around and was wondering if I got the right kit. I've seached but couldn't get a definate answer. The part numbers are 3556 and 3571. On the boxes, the 3556 says adjustable -1 to +3 and 3571 says -3/4 to +1. Will I have clearance problems with these? Thanks, Danny
BTW, i'm base 5th gen.

LegoMahEggroll · 02-23-2003, 08:30 PM

i think you will have clearance problems...

Bluluded · 02-23-2003, 10:24 PM

can anyone confirm this? I need to install the kits before I get new tires put on.
Danny

rondall31 · 02-23-2003, 10:44 PM

yes, the 3556 will have clearence problems. i had a pair on with prokits and had clearence problems everytime i went over potholes or decent size bumps.

screamer5300 · 02-24-2003, 12:07 AM

i have 3572 and i think this one doesn't for the rear.

it's the pivot one. that's what i heard.

Obsidian7 · 02-24-2003, 09:43 AM

Did you get an alignment first? Do you know how much camber each corner has now?

Lowering a Honda will cause the tires to toe-out. It is the toe-out (not the negative camber!) that will eat your tires to shreds on the inside edge. Excessive negative camber may cause wear as well, but it is *nothing* compared to the amount of wear caused by excessive toe-out.. we're talking like 10 to 1 here..

A proper street alignment, with zero toe in the back and a small amount of toe-in in the front, will fix your problem. 2 degrees of camber on a street car is no big deal.

(here's the part where 50 people with little/no experience tell me how wrong I am)

LegoMahEggroll · 02-24-2003, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by screamer5300
i have 3572 and i think this one doesn't for the rear.

it's the pivot one. that's what i heard.

rear kits hardly ever have clearance problems. Its the fronts that are a *****.

LegoMahEggroll · 02-24-2003, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Obsidian7
Did you get an alignment first? Do you know how much camber each corner has now?

Lowering a Honda will cause the tires to toe-out. It is the toe-out (not the negative camber!) that will eat your tires to shreds on the inside edge. Excessive negative camber may cause wear as well, but it is *nothing* compared to the amount of wear caused by excessive toe-out.. we're talking like 10 to 1 here..

A proper street alignment, with zero toe in the back and a small amount of toe-in in the front, will fix your problem. 2 degrees of camber on a street car is no big deal.

(here's the part where 50 people with little/no experience tell me how wrong I am)

in my experiences a messed up toe causes the whole tread of the tire to wear away quickly and negative camber causes the insides of the tires to wear more than the outsides. I'm not saying you are wrong....just saying what I've experienced....

jaded_lude · 02-24-2003, 05:06 PM

im not too familiar with camber kits, but i think i may need one. im lowered on neuspeed sports right now, and about to agx shocks in. i dont want to go through tires like mad. do i need a camber kit? what if i get 17's... or 18's..?? does that make a difference? what does all the "toe-in" lingo mean? also, what is the clearance problem?? thanks for the help

MugenPoweredLude · 02-24-2003, 08:33 PM

toe is the direction of your wheels...they should be like this:
l l
toe out is like this:
/ l or / \ or l \
front of car
toe in is like this:
\ l or l / or \ /
front of car
camber is the lean inward or outward at the top of the wheel/tire
negative camber is like this:
/ \
tire standing up
positive camber is like this:
\ /
tire standing up
the examples are a little extreme but they get the point across

jaded_lude · 02-24-2003, 10:12 PM

k i understand what you are saying, is there a way to check if your car needs camber adjustments? ... besides taking it in to a shop

screamer5300 · 02-24-2003, 11:50 PM

look at it from the side of the car. if the wheels are like / \, you need camber kit.

you could get an alignement done to fix this, if you're not that low on your drop.

get heel and toe adjustment. It'll fix the camber problem fairely well. Not completely tho.

jc836 · 02-25-2003, 03:55 PM

Time to straighten this out again-someone specifically asked, btw.

The 3571 kit will work just fine in the rear of a 5th gen and a 4th gen for that matter. It will be close for range with your drop. The 3572 is a different animal and where poly bushings are concerned-not really the right choice for a street driven Prelude. The 3573 will work like the 3571-but with more range. You need to provide the exact alignment machine data before even thinking which kits fit as this will determine what range you really need.
Now for the front-I'm biased in favor of the Specialty Products #67135 replacemnt ball joint kit. This is the correct part for use with either the Eibach Prokit or Neuspeed Sport springs. Again the realioty is that you MUST have the printout to determine how far out of adjustment you actually are. This kit will correct +/- 1.5 degrees and I am at the correct values and have room to spare. The only issue anyone has had with this type of spring and camber kit up front has been contact with the top of the shock tower-there is a small bumpout for clearance and the ball joint adjusting stud can hit it in some cases. If by chance you have really stiff springs-this will not be an issue.

Alignment-as I keep reminding is a key to handling and tire wear. Excessive Camber and incorrect Toe-In will destroy tires very quickly. Rotating them is not the cure long term. Go to both the Ingalls site (www.ingallseng.com) and Specialty (www.specprod.com) to read and look at the offerings available.