How many miles on the unit? What have you done to have it repalced?? Was it fixed under warranty???
o damn i forgot about this thread, lol. Well i had my tranny rebuilt when it died at this tranny shop. Not under warrenty cause i bought my car used from a infiniti dealer and it only came with a ****ty 1 month / 1000 miles warrenty. So the rebuild was like $2700, im still payin my parents for it now
I have a 2001 SS Prelude and my tranny is showing the same symptoms that many here have been describing such the jerking late high revs when going from 1 -> 2 gear and so on.
The dealer told me that the transmission sealer/gasket was leaking transmission fluid like a motha, which in turn somehow got into my front axle which affected my front right bearing which now has to be replaced and will cost me about $400. This is all b/c of a Crap A$$ SS transmission Honda Poorly produced. Why did this happen after I invested so much into my car (Rims & Tires, Body Kit, Jdm Fogs, guage bezels, Head unit, Amp, SUbs, Leather Interior, Carbon fiber interior...) Man I feel like such a succker now that i know how it feels like to be F*cked by Honda. Although I still have the extended warranty, I don't wanna have to bring it back again b/c of the same goddam problem. Is it possible for me to get a monetary reimbursement instead of having them replace my tranny. I'd rather do a tranny swap if they can reimburse me the money. Damn, I really wish i didnt get the SS, I got the SS just b/c that was the only new preludes they had and b/c I had wanted the prelude for so long and so bad i didnt want to wait anymore.
If you guys know of a place in the Los Angeles area that does SS-> 5 spd tranny swaps for preludes please let me know. Thanks.
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You're ride is still under warranty. If the axle and hub bearings are destoryed by a failed transmission, Honda should be willing to replace them at no charge.
o damn i forgot about this thread, lol. Well i had my tranny rebuilt when it died at this tranny shop. Not under warrenty cause i bought my car used from a infiniti dealer and it only came with a ****ty 1 month / 1000 miles warrenty. So the rebuild was like $2700, im still payin my parents for it now
Honda care (Torrance Office) was kind enough to replace my transmission gasket/sealer and front right bearing for free. Luckily, they approved the replacement right away within a couple hours of my request without any hassles. . I am really glad i called honda care b/c if i didnt i would have ended up paying around 700 for the repairs. Honda just won some brownie points in my book. Hopefully the bum gasket/sealer was the only problem with my tranny. I dont wanna have to get a new tranny at only 29500 miles on the engine and tranny.
Just got another call from the dealership today, and they have to replace my SS tranny.....so ghey. At least I don't have to pay for it. Will tell you guys how the new tranny feels when i get it.
They won't even give me a rental so it looks like i am going to have to hitch rides from people this weekend .....blahh
Honda is taking forever to replace my SS transmission. They won't even provide me with a rental car since the transmission was not in backorder......they've had my car for almost a week now....this is sooo lame i need a car and i don't have one right now, i dont wanna pay for rental car either b/c of the outrageous rates......so frickin lame......just venting about my SS tranny woes.....sigh...
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ya its been working perfect for about 10k miles now "knocks on wood"....im just gonna keep my fingers crossed cuase i really wanna keep this car as long as i can
My 98 SS has 58k on it and it works fine except for two little things that may/may not be real problems.
the first is that putting it into reverse often shakes alittle bit... not a hard clunk but it definately takes a second and then i can feel it. (it is cold out in minnesota so i don't know if that matters)
second, when i first drive it after it being off coming out of first gives a very slight vibration for about 1 second. it isn't audible and most people who ride in my car can't feel it but i can... it happens every time. It does not happen at any other time i'm at a stop like a stop sign, only when i first put the car into gear after a few hours being off.
do you guys know what this is? is my tranny starting to go or is this normal... no other problems and it shifts great.
My first post on this board, i'll put my five cents in. I had a 98 SS lude with 122k miles on it. Transmission is working fine. I vtec it about 3 to 4 times a day. The thing is, i got it used from the auction, so i don't know if someone replaced it before, but as far as i know its original.
It seems some of you have delt with honda care and know how they work pretty well. Currently I drive an S2000 and just recently my sparkplug came out of its seat (basically running on 3 cylinders) and made the sparkplug bounce up and down in the cylinder head therefore shreading all the threads that holds the sparkplug in. I took it in and they did warranty work on the head and inserted a "time cert" in place. a time cert is basically a insert that creates "threads" for the sparkplug to go into. Thing is im not satisfied and I really want the whole head replaced because this shouldnt happen and isnt standard wear and tear. I want an "OEM original non-damaged head." I argued with both the American Honda and service advisers about htis with no luck. Could I seek this out with a lawyer and succeed or am I asking too much?
When I first got my ss I noticed that the transmission its under extended warranty, my reverse gear went out and they replaced the whole transmission with out charge and I even got a rental car. Check your extended warranty and take it to a dealer if it goes out.
I have 62K on my tranny and have replaced the ATF every 15 k miles. At 60 I did the drain and fill three times. Is this sufficient to no expect any tranny problems?
so what's going on with this issue?? i have '98 prelude.. SS auto
have about 89K on it :O
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Can anybody walk me through this process of claiming this warranty? I bought my 01 SS Prelude from the dealer with 52k miles last year 08/04.. Right now I'm feeling the symptoms of the tranny shifting roughly from 1st to 2nd, and shifting late (staying in one gear for awhile before it shifts up).. This car was driven on the highway a lot so plenty of high rpm shifts.. and right now i have like 76k miles.. yeah i know i put in a lot of miles in one year..
My question is, am I covered on that 100,000 mile warranty? I purchased an extended warranty from the honda dealership when I bought the car.. Silver Coverage to be exact.. Is the 100,000 extended warranty on the SS transmission apply to me even though i only have the Silver Coverage? Are they both different? The Silver Coverage Warranty I purchased isn't from honda care.. will that matter? Would I have to pay for anything? I need help really bad guys.. This is the one and only car I have and If this car's tranny goes, EVERYTHING that can go wrong will go wrong.. If someone could kindly help me go through this process it will be much much appreciated!
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I JUST bought a 98 lude about a week and a half ago, and the guy told me the SS tranny was replaced in august of last year. It's only got 2k miles on it, but i can feel it barely slip when it shifts and it shakes for a sec when it goes into reverse, 88k miles and its been VERY well taken care of and driven VERY gently by the previous owner..... honda owes us new tranny's because if this thing goes out I'm gonna be pissed... I just dropped $11k on this car and theres no way in hell im gonna drop 5 more in a new tranny.
Here is a post from the Sprotshift Complaints forum at MSN...
Priceless:
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Just wanted to let you guys know how I made out with my Prelude sportshift. I had been on this group before, but left once my Prelude was totaled in an accident. After fighting for years with Honda about my failing SS transmission, I had it replaced before the accident. It ended up costing my about $1900 total. Well, I decided I would file a small claims against Honda for my replacement transmission. After they received the court date, a customer service rep contacted me and tried to get me to understand that it wasn't their issue. She mentioned that the legal and mediation departments had ignored the hearing request and they had referred the issue to her in customer service. Well, she didn't persuade me (like she was going to be able to) and when the court date came, I showed up, but no one from Honda did. They had a default ruling in my favor for not showing up. I live in Massachusetts, and if they don't even show up, they lose the opportunity to appeal the case. Therefore I won the ruling for $1900+. Oddly enough, I called about 2 weeks after the ruling to see who I should talk to about receiving my money. I assumed I would be in for the run around to get the money, if they even were going to. However, the customer service rep looked up my info and said the check had been sent out 2 days prior. The next day I received a check for the full amount. I guess you could say I finally beat Honda. Just wanted to give you guys the info, in case anybody else wants to try it. It only cost a $40 court fee in MA for up to $2000, so it was a small price to try it. Feel free to contact me if you want any info on what I did. I would love to see other people get reimbursed for faulty Honda work. Thanks.
Ludashap, my car does the vibration thing on takeoff too. This gave me a few questions so I thought I would ask.
1. Is there a specific part that primarily fails that could be replaced less expensively when symptoms start rather than replacing the whole tranny?
2. Is it the torque converters failing and taking the trannies out, and if so are there good aftermarket options?
3. Are there more reliable Honda auto trannies that would replace the SS for those who don't care about sport shifting?
Ludashap, my car does the vibration thing on takeoff too. This gave me a few questions so I thought I would ask.
1. Is there a specific part that primarily fails that could be replaced less expensively when symptoms start rather than replacing the whole tranny?
2. Is it the torque converters failing and taking the trannies out, and if so are there good aftermarket options?
3. Are there more reliable Honda auto trannies that would replace the SS for those who don't care about sport shifting?
1) There are some substandard clutch packs and needle bearings that fail... and then destroy other parts of the tranny.
2) The T/C's are not the issue, BUT the 97/98 SS Autos have higher stall speeds that along with the substandard parts caused failures. All remaned / newer T/Cs do not have as high a stall speed and the performance suffers for it.
3) The SS auto used in the Prelude is a knock off of the 4 speed SS Auto in the earlier Acura TLs. They had massive issues as well...
Tranny went out on the way to work. Backed out of my driveway and when I went to put it into drive it slammed hard. Now wont go back into reverse or park unless the engine is shut off and the key is in acc. When I do put it into reverse of drive it slams hard. Made an appointment for monday morning at Hondaland in Tampa.
I am nearing 90k on my 2000 SS and have slippage from 1st >> 2nd and slamming from N, P >> R.
It seems as though I should replace the tranny while the 100k warranty is still active, however if the remaned units don't perform as well or just fail again in a few thousand miles, logic would dictate a 5spd swap would be in order.
My question is this -- for those of you with experience dealing with Honda Care and other such channels, what is the feasibility of Honda giving me a 5 speed transmission (just giving me the unit, no install/labor) instead of another SS or the monetary value of a remaned SS + labor?
It seems to me that this would be better economically for Honda, as 5 speed units generally cost less.
I am nearing 90k on my 2000 SS and have slippage from 1st >> 2nd and slamming from N, P >> R.
It seems as though I should replace the tranny while the 100k warranty is still active, however if the remaned units don't perform as well or just fail again in a few thousand miles, logic would dictate a 5spd swap would be in order.
My question is this -- for those of you with experience dealing with Honda Care and other such channels, what is the feasibility of Honda giving me a 5 speed transmission (just giving me the unit, no install/labor) instead of another SS or the monetary value of a remaned SS + labor?
It seems to me that this would be better economically for Honda, as 5 speed units generally cost less.
Non-Existant
Period.
They won't even laugh...
Let them repalce your transmission under warranty. Then you can always perform your own 5 speed swap and sell the transmission to someone else...
....but I won't bother. The reman'ed version of the 1997 & 1998 are really the only ones that suffer from a reduced stall speed... Your tranny will be no different than it is now...except it'll work.
I just don't see the point of replacing my tranny if the new one is going to fail in 30000 miles anyway..
At this point the issue is that the dealers don't have a clue as to how to properly troubleshoot the units.
Honda has, on the flip side, done a good job rebuilding them and it's unlikely that you'll have a problem with the reman'ed tranny.
I had 60k on my reman'ed unit and the only reason I did a swap is because Honda couldn't figure out that it was shifting poorly because the ICM in the distributor was messed up.
My very well maintained 2000 SS tranny has just died at 84,300 miles.
Same general symptoms. The initial indicator, a torque converter jerk on rolling to a stop (this was always present since the car was new) became slightly more pronounced. A few days later, a sudden drop out of 4th & 3rd into 2nd. I could shift into 3rd with about 10 attempts, but it would drop back into 2nd randomly. Not very fun! Lost reverse when warmed up also.
I bet it may have lasted longer if I had actually installed the tranny oil cooler that's been sitting on my shelf for the past couple of years!
The car is at a dealer in socal now. I have I/E/P on the car, so we'll see what happens.
As I have 96,500 miles on the odo, I figured it was time to get the tranny taken care of. Here's my story --
I scheduled a service appt. through Honda Ownerlink for today at noon at Jim Coleman Honda in Clarksville, MD. I brought with me the recall notification printed from the Ownerlink page and pulled into the service bay. A friend had recommended service advisor Clifton, so I found him and began to explain my problem and what I wanted done. He was extremely helpful and explained to me that he would have someone road test the vehicle and then go from there if it exhibits the signs. About an hour later, Clifton came into the waiting room / showroom floor and told me the tech did notice the signs and also noticed my transmission fluid was extremely dark/dirty so he suggested they change my fluid. I explained to him that I had my fluid replaced only 5000 miles ago and he then said, "Oh! In that case, let me see if I can't order you a new transmission. I'll call you later today when I find out." I thanked him and went on my way...
At around 5:30pm, I received a call from Clifton and he told me they went ahead and ordered the transmission and it should arrive on Th 6/21 or Fri 6/22 and that I should expect to drop my car off at some point the next Monday, 6/25 and that it'd be ready by end of day on Tuesday 6/26. I thanked him and ended the call.
This is looking very good and hassle-free so far. I suppose the verdict won't be reached until the new tranny is in, but my experience with the dealer was much better than many I have seen on this forum and others... just thought I'd share =]
BTW - I have I/E and coilovers as far as major mods and these were not brought up at all so I'm going to give props to Coleman for not being dicks
Got her back today with a fresh tranny. I'm finally experiencing SS as it was meant to be.. it's much faster than I thought and definitely much smoother now.
id like to make a complaint. ive gone thru one tranny already. it was replaced by the dealer warranty. i only had the car 2 months and it went with 70k on it. even after it was replaced it never really felt that strong kinda shaky like. its doing ok tho so i hope i dont have any more issues with it. its got 130k now
I just replaced my ATF with Amsoil sythetic from driving 10k on Honda Z-1 but the car still stutters in reverse, especially when backing up the bottom of an incline. Also, 1-2 shift is like a rubber band under moderate throttle going up a gentle incline. I am thinking about selling the car, it has 160k now, I don't imagine Honda would give me a cheap reman tranny, what is the number to Honda Care anyway, maybe I should call them.
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OK Heres my question I have a 2001 SS prelude and I got a bunch of modifications such as: Intake, header, intake mani., camshafts, and exhaust. and my car is near the 75xxx mile mark and my car is slipping from 1st to 2nd gears. Will my car still be covered under the tranny warrenty since i have all these modifications, or do I have to turn my car to stock to get the warrenty satisfied? Should I call Honda Care?
OK well I called the honda dealer and talked to the head rep of the service department and I told them what mods I had and Asked them if they would void the ext. warrenty and he said as long as I didn't modify the transmission its self then I will be ok. So basically As long as you dont mess with your transmission then it should be ok. But Anyway I made adn appointment to drop my car off on the 26th this month at 7:30am and I will let you guys now how it goes.
well the warrenty states its 7 years or 100K whichever comes first. So basically what the women told me is if I dont get my 01 lude in the shop some time before the first of the year im fine. but after the first of the year im screwed.
well I got my car back from the honda dealer jsut about an hour ago. and first thing they told me was that my transmission cooler voided my warrenty. so I talked them around that and they told me they didn't find anything wrong with my transmission but told me I needed to have a bunch of other crap replaced that had nothing to do with the transmission.
well I got my car back from the honda dealer jsut about an hour ago. and first thing they told me was that my transmission cooler voided my warrenty. so I talked them around that and they told me they didn't find anything wrong with my transmission but told me I needed to have a bunch of other crap replaced that had nothing to do with the transmission.
98 prelude SS, 72k miles but ive only had it for a month so im not sure if i have the original tranny, no problems so far, but ive got a lifetime powertrain warranty from the dealer, so long as i let them do all of my scheduled maintainance blah blah blah...
AEM cai so far, but after seeing this thread i dont know if i'll upgrade anything else, not sure how touchy this warranty is.
any news on this issue?
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i have a 98 prelude and the tranny is def starting to go, its a salvaged title would the dealer cover it?
There's no way for us to know without just asking the dealer.
To everyone:
Please understand that dealers are all sneaky bastards. Their goal is not to pay for anything they can possibly bullsh*t their way out of. Every dealer I've seen operates this way. There are some rare, rare few that actually care about people, but those are just so unusual nowadays that I assume they don't exist.
What this means is that dealers will use any excuse not to replace your transmission. Labor is expensive, and it costs them lots of money to do it. If you have any mods at all, the chances are really high that the dealer won't help you. This especially includes cars with non-clean Carfax records (1 or more accidents). I would say that only people with a clean history and a basically stock car have any chance of Honda honoring this transmission warranty.
There may be some exceptions, but in general this is reality. The only real way to know is to start calling your local dealers (don't ask here, we can't help you with warranty stuff). It would be wise to talk to all dealers within driving distance, because some may be more reasonable than others.
Also:
Even if you do get your transmission serviced under warranty, it is not fixed. Honda is simply going to replace your failing transmission with an OEM unit. The design flaw that caused your failure is still going to be there. Honda has not actually fixed the design problem. Your replacement transmission will fail in the future. We can't say if it would be sooner or later (some report going 100k+ mi or more). But we do know from the many former members here that there is no permanent fix.
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I've got a 00 that I've had since 01 and havn't had any problems with the SS until now, right after it hit 109k. They said the torque converter was basically melting and cloggin up some filter screens inside the tranny and would need to replace the entire thing for $2,250. I'm not so sure I should fork up the cash, especially since they havn't taken a look. That's just what the comp told them. What do you guys think?
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. I am really glad i called honda care b/c if i didnt i would have ended up paying around 700 for the repairs. Honda just won some brownie points in my book. Hopefully the bum gasket/sealer was the only problem with my tranny. I dont wanna have to get a new tranny at only 29500 miles on the engine and tranny.
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