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Old 07-16-2009, 03:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I need synthetic oil recommendations... since Mobil 1 is now $6.99 a bottle.

Yea.. I cant deal with this anymore... its $6.99 for SYNTHETIC. Ridiculous... how well do these other companies that offer synthetic compare? Anything to worry about if you mix synthetics? My lude is at 169k in mileage btw.
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All i know is.....STAY AWAY FROM PENZOIL!!!!!
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I have heard you shouldn't mix conventional with synthetic.

Since switching to Royal Purple 5w30 synthetic I have noticed a gain of 3mpg in fuel economy.
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Yeah, but royal purple is racing oil, so that's just more expensive.

Dead, you buy in single quarts don't you? That doesn't help Mobil one in a 5 quart is I think $25, but that's still expensive.

I do Valvoline synthetic, $20 bucks for a 5 quart. However, if you cheap, go conventional.
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its just ridiculous these prices for oil... Im sure it will come down... Im going to check wally world for prices tonight. Hopefully its cheaper... the 6.99 quote was from Advance Auto Parts store up the street.. and convenient.
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I'm curious as to why you would state this w/o conclusive evidence.

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Yeah, but royal purple is racing oil, so that's just more expensive.
It's more expensive but I wouldn't consider it "racing oil" as it's in conventional weights.
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I'm curious as to why you would state this w/o conclusive evidence.



It's more expensive but I wouldn't consider it "racing oil" as it's in conventional weights.

about pensoil, I've heard the same from a guy on another forum I am on. He worked/works in a oil testing lab for like 25 years, and he said one of the worst oils was pensoil. He got into detail, but I can't remember. Personally, I agree though, I would rather follow evidence than word-o-mouth.

--It isn't racing oil? I thought that's why it was so special?
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I would have to look at blackstone oil analysis for the penzoil oil to reach a conclusion. We do have a thread about this and other data on the internet.

No, royal purple is just another oil with a fancy price tag + name. See people get real protective of their oil sometimes or their brands. They want to justify their purchase.

I spend around $80 for oil alone because I need a little over 7 liters. Does it make it better? Probably not but I'm not going to tell you to buy the same oil as me. For real racing, my opinion is Redline makes better products.
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No, royal purple is just another oil with a fancy price tag + name. See people get real protective of their oil sometimes or their brands. They want to justify their purchase.
Thank you for saying this. Cannot stress this enough. Pisses me off when people defend the oil they use like it's their life. I can understand asking/giving suggestions, or wanting an opinion, but to argue over who's oil is better without lab results.........bleh. Nonsense
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OMG Mobile 1 went up in price?
god, glad I bought that deal at autozone a month or so ago...like a box of 12 for like 35-40 with filters....bought 2 boxes
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wow, i pay 126.00 canadian for two cases of (6 quarts each case) Eneos 5w30. I wish could get it for that much man. But i do know where that extra moneys goes......right into the VTEC!!!
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HAHAHA. Castrol Edge is $8\qt.
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Ok here goes; i have treid many different oils in my preludes and my integra and my roomates dels sol with b18gsr(turbo'd), and this is what we have found with average to extreme driving. I have found Eneos to be the best(as in my car burns the least of it and it gives me the best mileage, also it makes my lude run like "smooth butter"), then the motul 300v(which is 5-40, but it works extremely well if you have a grounding kit), then Royal purple and elf, both of which worked great. Mobile one, well i used it for many years in my teggy and i liked it but it didnt give me the mileage that eneos or elf did. I also tried Redline, now many of my redneck freinds with regal t types and camaros and corvettes and hemi cuda's and sh(i)t told me this is the best, however when i used it i was always topping up the oil(Redline oil is not made for high rpm and high tempurature engines like hondas apperently. when i used it my engine ran very sluggish and i got horrible mileage out of it). Amsoil is good too but it also seemed to burn away quite quickly. The quaker states q is ok, my dad uses it in his wrx and he loves it, i didnt really like it a whole lot, i thought i worked well but i still didnt get the best mileage out of it and it seemed to get dirty very quickly. I really enjoy the eneos 5-30 and have found that my car runs and sounds much better when i use it, so i do, and it has become the only oil i will use in my hondas. They also make trans fluid but i have yet to try it, i kinda have a hard time steering away form the Honda syncromesh, but i do hear the gm syncromesh is awesome; one time when i was using redline oil in my engine i bought some redline tranny fluid and it was the worst mistake i could make man, i had a hard time shifting into all gears and my tranny always wanted to spit the gears out. I took it in and replaced it wih the Honda stuff and my car ran like a dream......NO REDLINE, THE STUFF IS GARBAGE, ITS MEANT FOR REDNECKS AND THIER BANKRUPTMOBILES....

In the end i think oil is oil and it is a personel preference, however, i do recommend trying and experimenting with different kinds of oil as if you dont try different ones then you will not have a fair start to comparing the different brands and types.

And this last part, well i am going to address people who say oil doesnt matter and people just try to defend their purchase. This is said by people who have closed minds when dealing with thier car and thier oil issues. If someone does not try the differnet oils in their car then they have no right to brag up or bring a type of oil down. Each car is different and may function differently than others using the same oil; also driving habits come into play here as if you are alway in vtec then your car will require more oil at a hotter temp. Its these conditions that may prove if one kind of oil is superior to another, but only if you try the different oils out there. Its is a pain in the ass to monitor the oil and the mileage and what not but if you do not do so then how can one fairly say how well that oil performed. Now, sceince and lab testing of the different oils is a fair way to judge the average performance of an oil, but that does not mean you will see the exact same results in your car; those tests are stricly controlled and are really used as more of an advertising agent than anything else. Truly the only way to find out if one oil is better than another is to use them yourself and discover the faults and the advantages of individual comapanies and weights. Oil use is really dependant upon the application it is being used in. A drift racer will use a different type of oil than that of a rally racer or drag racer. A muscle car is going to use different oil than a Honda, why is this? Because they are different applications and have different requirements of the oil.

In conclusion, dont knock what oil people use but dont flaunt one either, it is an individual choice, kinda like what brand of underwear you wear, in the end they all do the same job, some are more comfortable than others and some are cheaper, but its your call in the end.
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Has anybody tried valvoline syntec blends either maxlife(red bottle) (high mileage cars) or the other one (blue bottle). Im thinking about switching over to it. I originally used mobil 1 10w-30 high mileage fully synthetic and it didnt hold up well. Now im running Valvoline Fully syn 10w-30, but my engine has 168k and I need something else that wont burn off as easily. Anybody has any thoughts on it???

And to the OP, how much oil does your lude go thru in 500miles??? Considering we both have similar mileage.
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at walmart a 5 quart jug of mobile 1 is like $22
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Ok here goes; i have treid many different oils in my preludes and my integra and my roomates dels sol with b18gsr(turbo'd), and this is what we have found with average to extreme driving. I have found Eneos to be the best(as in my car burns the least of it and it gives me the best mileage, also it makes my lude run like "smooth butter"), then the motul 300v(which is 5-40, but it works extremely well if you have a grounding kit), then Royal purple and elf, both of which worked great. Mobile one, well i used it for many years in my teggy and i liked it but it didnt give me the mileage that eneos or elf did. I also tried Redline, now many of my redneck freinds with regal t types and camaros and corvettes and hemi cuda's and sh(i)t told me this is the best, however when i used it i was always topping up the oil(Redline oil is not made for high rpm and high tempurature engines like hondas apperently. when i used it my engine ran very sluggish and i got horrible mileage out of it). Amsoil is good too but it also seemed to burn away quite quickly. The quaker states q is ok, my dad uses it in his wrx and he loves it, i didnt really like it a whole lot, i thought i worked well but i still didnt get the best mileage out of it and it seemed to get dirty very quickly. I really enjoy the eneos 5-30 and have found that my car runs and sounds much better when i use it, so i do, and it has become the only oil i will use in my hondas. They also make trans fluid but i have yet to try it, i kinda have a hard time steering away form the Honda syncromesh, but i do hear the gm syncromesh is awesome; one time when i was using redline oil in my engine i bought some redline tranny fluid and it was the worst mistake i could make man, i had a hard time shifting into all gears and my tranny always wanted to spit the gears out. I took it in and replaced it wih the Honda stuff and my car ran like a dream......NO REDLINE, THE STUFF IS GARBAGE, ITS MEANT FOR REDNECKS AND THIER BANKRUPTMOBILES....

In the end i think oil is oil and it is a personel preference, however, i do recommend trying and experimenting with different kinds of oil as if you dont try different ones then you will not have a fair start to comparing the different brands and types.

And this last part, well i am going to address people who say oil doesnt matter and people just try to defend their purchase. This is said by people who have closed minds when dealing with thier car and thier oil issues. If someone does not try the differnet oils in their car then they have no right to brag up or bring a type of oil down. Each car is different and may function differently than others using the same oil; also driving habits come into play here as if you are alway in vtec then your car will require more oil at a hotter temp. Its these conditions that may prove if one kind of oil is superior to another, but only if you try the different oils out there. Its is a pain in the ass to monitor the oil and the mileage and what not but if you do not do so then how can one fairly say how well that oil performed. Now, sceince and lab testing of the different oils is a fair way to judge the average performance of an oil, but that does not mean you will see the exact same results in your car; those tests are stricly controlled and are really used as more of an advertising agent than anything else. Truly the only way to find out if one oil is better than another is to use them yourself and discover the faults and the advantages of individual comapanies and weights. Oil use is really dependant upon the application it is being used in. A drift racer will use a different type of oil than that of a rally racer or drag racer. A muscle car is going to use different oil than a Honda, why is this? Because they are different applications and have different requirements of the oil.

In conclusion, dont knock what oil people use but dont flaunt one either, it is an individual choice, kinda like what brand of underwear you wear, in the end they all do the same job, some are more comfortable than others and some are cheaper, but its your call in the end.
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I'm sure your personal experiences are just that, your personal experiences.

You are basically doing something very unscientific. If you gave me Blackstone oil analysis, then yes, I might take into account that you have some good info but in the end, it's just mere observations and there was no double blind test.

It seems you have such varied reactions to different oils that it's almost as though you should be able to guess what oil was used in your car.

I'm willing to bet you couldn't. I've tried a good variety of oils in the h22 and now s52 and honestly, each did the same thing. No crazy change in mileage (I keep track) and in the h22, no more oil eating than the rest.

I can say the Redline MTL felt the same as the GM syncromesh FM I used. Didn't matter.

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