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Old 05-06-2011, 05:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Horrible tire wear confusion.

Okay so i have not the slightest clue about whats going on with my car. About a year ago i purchased a set of BF Goodrich g-Force Super Sports. They're wrapped around 04-06 RSX-S wheels. The tire size is 215/45ZR17 91W. They're just at 19,000 miles. Stock suspension. Stock height. And this is what they look like right now...





They all look like this...All on the inside row of tread. I have no clue how old the suspension components are. Could I have bad bushings/struts? Or do i need a camber kit? Could my tire size be too big compared to what stock blade's sit at? All help is appreciated.


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You need an alignment.
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I had two in the last 4 months. The numbers are good and nothing was ever off more than 3/10ths of a degree.

I do not need an alignment.
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Well then, that's odd.

Blown struts can't cause inner tire wear, and neither can slightly larger tires. The most likely cause is your toe is out of spec, or extremely negative camber could cause that, but that won't happen anywhere near stock ride height. If either of the specs were way off, the alignment should have shown it.

If it was worn bushings or wheel bearings it wouldn't affect all 4 tires, and there would be other signs. If anything in the suspension was bent, the alignment shop should have caught it.

Obviously you need new tires....like now. Driving on those is risking a major blowout.
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**** I know it man. I talked to a guy at Tire Discounters, and all he told me in that excessive corning did it. And that a performance tire like that doesn't last long. Well I call bull****, they should last longer than 19 thousand... Couldn't a soft worn out combination of struts and springs under the load of passengers cause a negative camber though? (I have no idea if springs can wear out)
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do you know if they checked the front end before doing the alignment? Like shaking down the front end looking for any play.. i work at a shop and i have co workers that dont do that and they try to align it and it makes it worst and people have cam back because the new tires they just replaced are showing signs of the same wear.
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Reading this makes me think its Toe wear...


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That could be man...Idk its tire discounters...what do you need to work there? A G.E.D.? Some dumbass could have easily looked this over. I didn't watch them put the tires on. Maybe I'll go to a reputable shop tomorrow and ask them what they think.



EDIT: Oh and i didn't mean anything by that. I've just seen some **** in my day, you know?
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lol your good man iv seen co workers get lazy i had to learn to do a shake down first too because if u keep trying to align it and u keep havin to fight with it then its something more. i would go back and tell then to try and align it again have them do all 4 corners and shake down everything. if they look at u stupid when u say it then take you business elsewhere lol
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Well those are(were ) really soft tires, and I've seen sets of really grippy tires wear out in 10k....but not like that. They should still wear evenly, not only on the inside edges like that.

I suppose theoretically worn out springs could cause negative camber if they were making the car ride way a bunch lower, but they would have to be totally gone for that to happen. I'm sure you would notice if the car was sagging that bad too. Stock springs on preludes also seem to last a LONG time.

Struts have nothing to do with it.


A bad wheel bearing (wobble in the wheels) wouldn't affect all 4 tires.


I dunno man...
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Well those are(were ) really soft tires, and I've seen sets of really grippy tires wear out in 10k....but not like that. They should still wear evenly, not only on the inside edges like that.

I suppose theoretically worn out springs could cause negative camber if they were making the car ride way a bunch lower, but they would have to be totally gone for that to happen. I'm sure you would notice if the car was sagging that bad too. Stock springs on preludes also seem to last a LONG time.

Struts have nothing to do with it.


A bad wheel bearing (wobble in the wheels) wouldn't affect all 4 tires.


I dunno man...
yeah. i woould have to see it in person
for the front i could see the tie rod play can cause it
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Yeah, bad wheel bearings, tie rod ends, ball joints, bushings...there are plenty of things that can cause tire wear, but none of them would do it to all 4 tires. Weird.
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Seems like you didn't rotate the tires. That's bad.

Excessive cornering would wear the outside of the tire, not the inside.

What is your suspension setup? Include shocks, springs, height, and wheel specs.
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Seems like you didn't rotate the tires. That's bad.

Excessive cornering would wear the outside of the tire, not the inside.

What is your suspension setup? Include shocks, springs, height, and wheel specs.
now that you said something about tire rotation i think that might be the problem i say that because may be the shop did do a tire rotation and thats how the back got effected and now they all look the same
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What is your suspension setup? Include shocks, springs, height, and wheel specs.
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..They're wrapped around 04-06 RSX-S wheels. The tire size is 215/45ZR17 91W. Stock suspension. Stock height.
Did Kronn fail to read the thread?
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I bet you take it somewhere else and it turns out the rear toe is way out, I'd put money on it.
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^That brings us back to this:


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You need an alignment.

That looks too much like toe wear to not be toe wear.
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Actually, I read it, but I forgot.

I agree that it looks like toe wear. But still, the tires should have been rotated better.
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ive had the tires rotated every 5k up untill the last 4k or so....
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