I bought a 5th gen lude, its a 2000 SH, realized the horn does not work. I checked the fuse box beside the rest pedle and there was no horn fuse. Checked under the hood and saw "Stop Horn", now I am assuming thats the horn fuse, but it looked fine. What can the problem be? Does it have to do with the car's stock alarm? I checked all the fuses with a screw driver test light. everything looked good.
Dont just assume the fuse is good cause it looked good,check it with a light tester. I had a problem where the fuse looked good but was in fact bad when i put a test light on it and tried it..Also make sure horns are grounded and or a wire isnt disconnected some how..
i have a similar problem with my horn, sometimes it wont work at all when driving, yet when i restart the car (completely remove key) it works fine. Some sort of glitch I havent been able to figure out yet
Try setting your cruise control. The SET/DECEL and RESUME/ACCEL switches on your steering wheel are both powered by the horn fuse. So if those switches both work, then your horn fuse is fine.
If it's not the fuse, you might want to check the horn relay in the under-dash fuse box. There are four small relays in a horizontal line near the top of the fuse box. Your horn relay should be the second from the right. For those with 97-98 models, the horn relay should be the last one on the right.
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Dont just assume the fuse is good cause it looked good,check it with a light tester. I had a problem where the fuse looked good but was in fact bad when i put a test light on it and tried it..Also make sure horns are grounded and or a wire isnt disconnected some how..
dude, I checked all fuses just like it says in my first post with a light tester.
Try setting your cruise control. The SET/DECEL and RESUME/ACCEL switches on your steering wheel are both powered by the horn fuse. So if those switches both work, then your horn fuse is fine.
If it's not the fuse, you might want to check the horn relay in the under-dash fuse box. There are four small relays in a horizontal line near the top of the fuse box. Your horn relay should be the second from the right. For those with 97-98 models, the horn relay should be the last one on the right.
Crashandburn, thanx for the advice, I tried the cruise control and it does NOT work...wow....now I am started run anything that is electrical.
Turns out, my:
- windshield fluid pump does not work but the windshield wipers move.
- Cruise control does not work.
- Horn does not work.
- and most shocking of all, my VTEC does not kick in!!
like I said, I just recently acquired the car. Anyone know where I can get diagrams of the wiring for teh car??! anyone have a pdf version of the helms manual?
Edit: regarding the VTEC, there is a VAFC installed on the system, I am not too familiar with it but I did reset it as per manual instructions on the website, now does that mean the car will run factory settings from honda or will it run factor settings for VAFC?? I read somewhere that the VAFC factory settings kicks in at 6,500rpm, I only reved tell maybe just over 6,000
My bad, i must have not read that part. i would possibly try to check for a broken wire or pinched wire int he column somewhere. I dont know where u can get a schematics,i think there is an FAQ for the helms somewhere. It could be a wire somewhere in that area since all the problems are related to the steering wheel. As far as V-tec, yea it is set higher when stock on vafc settings,but also when vtec is lowered it doesnt kick in as hard as it does at 5200, it is a smoother change over..my CC stopped working after my 5 speed swap, all fuses are good and everything is hooked up,so i been trying to fix it to, if i find anything i will try to help u out.My problem is my car has the wrong ECU in it to..
My bad, i must have not read that part. i would possibly try to check for a broken wire or pinched wire int he column somewhere. I dont know where u can get a schematics,i think there is an FAQ for the helms somewhere. It could be a wire somewhere in that area since all the problems are related to the steering wheel. As far as V-tec, yea it is set higher when stock on vafc settings,but also when vtec is lowered it doesnt kick in as hard as it does at 5200, it is a smoother change over..my CC stopped working after my 5 speed swap, all fuses are good and everything is hooked up,so i been trying to fix it to, if i find anything i will try to help u out.My problem is my car has the wrong ECU in it to..
thats what my next task was to do, get wiring diagrams and start going and see where there could be a problem.
regarding the vtec, I am used to the b18c1 vtec's kicking in (my frineds car, the has this boost feeling and is reving even louder and hearing air flowing). Now, I don't have an intake so that might make it less noiser and my muffler is a bit loud at that rpm so maybe it is kicking in but I am too stupid to tell....
I am reading that cruise only kicks in at 60-80km/h or higher.....I only tried at around 50ish or so...gona go try now again at higher speed...
Mojo85: Another check you should do is to see if your brake lights work since they are also powered by the "stop/horn" fuse. If something is wrong with that circuit and you have no brake lights, you're begging to get rear-ended.
Pearl-lude99: The only difference between auto and manual for the CC is the pink wire, #14 in the cruise control unit connector. On the auto, it is grounded when the car is in D4, D3, or 2 so the CC unit can turn off if you drop into neutral. On the 5spd, that wire goes to a switch on the clutch that grounds the wire when you have your foot off the clutch. When you push the clutch in, the wire is ungrounded and the CC shuts off. So if that wire was disconnected in your car and never reconnected to anything, then your CC will think that you are always in neutral or have the clutch pushed in and CC will never engage.
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Mojo85: Another check you should do is to see if your brake lights work since they are also powered by the "stop/horn" fuse. If something is wrong with that circuit and you have no brake lights, you're begging to get rear-ended.
Trust me, I checked EVERY single electronic in the car. all the lights work. break, reverse, idle, headlapms, signals....it is really mind bogling me.
It is also very hard to find a knowlegable electrician/mechanic that is very familiar with honda's wiring and relay setups. Thats what I am going through now.
Pearl-lude99: The only difference between auto and manual for the CC is the pink wire, #14 in the cruise control unit connector. On the auto, it is grounded when the car is in D4, D3, or 2 so the CC unit can turn off if you drop into neutral. On the 5spd, that wire goes to a switch on the clutch that grounds the wire when you have your foot off the clutch. When you push the clutch in, the wire is ungrounded and the CC shuts off. So if that wire was disconnected in your car and never reconnected to anything, then your CC will think that you are always in neutral or have the clutch pushed in and CC will never engage.[/QUOTE]
So ur saying try to find that pink wire(#14) and try to reground to the clutch pedal it self.Or just find it and ground it anywhere,i understand pretty much all that u said but a little confusion with the pink wire. I will try tonight to see what i find.My car also does not have a neutral safety switch after the swap, i am hoping that doesnt affect anything,i gotta figure out how to wire one up..
Pearl-lude99: If you just ground the pink wire, then your CC should work but it will not know when you've pushed in the clutch pedal. So if you're cruising down the highway on CC and push your clutch pedal in, the RPMs will redline because the CC won't turn off automatically like it will if you connect the pink wire to ground through a clutch switch (like it's supposed to be).
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I catch what ur saying,so is there a switch i should buy,or one on there that i can ground it to? that's what i am trying to figure out, i gotta figure out also how to get a neutral safety switch wired in. since i got the swap i dont know if there is something that i can use to tie into and get it to work,or if i have to wire it all up myself somehow. You got any input for me on that. I am gonna check my snap on program at my garage and see if i can find anything to. Obviously buying a NSS would be a good start..
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