the sh trans cannot handle any more torque than about 215-220, that would be around 250-265 horsepower(depending on setup). I would not use an atts trans for the life of me(even though they are a helluva gift from honda). as for the flywheel; have you ever seen a h22 flywheel? it is about 2.5 inches thick on the back side, there is definatly no issues with using the stocker for that. especially if you turbo, you are not goin to want a light flywheel as you will be using lower compression pistons and wont have as much power down low, using a heavier flywheel gives your rotating assembly more inertia, therfore making it easier on the lower powered engine (until the boost spools, then the flywheel weight wont matter) to keep the flywheel going. remember a ligthweight flywheel not only accelerates quicker but also slows down quicker, this causes your engine to have to work a little harder to maintainflywheel speed.
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the sh trans cannot handle any more torque than about 215-220, that would be around 250-265 horsepower(depending on setup). I would not use an atts trans for the life of me(even though they are a helluva gift from honda). as for the flywheel; have you ever seen a h22 flywheel? it is about 2.5 inches thick on the back side, there is definatly no issues with using the stocker for that. especially if you turbo, you are not goin to want a light flywheel as you will be using lower compression pistons and wont have as much power down low, using a heavier flywheel gives your rotating assembly more inertia, therfore making it easier on the lower powered engine (until the boost spools, then the flywheel weight wont matter) to keep the flywheel going. remember a ligthweight flywheel not only accelerates quicker but also slows down quicker, this causes your engine to have to work a little harder to maintainflywheel speed.
Oh really? So does a base come with LSD or would I have to swap the tranny to get it? And what about the clutch? some jpeople say it will burn out if you go over 250 as well?
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the sh trans cannot handle any more torque than about 215-220, that would be around 250-265 horsepower(depending on setup). I would not use an atts trans for the life of me(even though they are a helluva gift from honda).
The SH trans can handle whatever the base trans can handle. ATTS cannot handle 215-220 wtq, but it just shuts off. All this does is turns your SH into a heavier base.
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Oh really? So does a base come with LSD or would I have to swap the tranny to get it? And what about the clutch? some jpeople say it will burn out if you go over 250 as well?
No, the base does not come with LSD. Clutches vary, however, if you're asking about the stock clutch, most likely true. But, if you're putting down that much power, you should replace the stock clutch anyway.
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The SH trans can handle whatever the base trans can handle. ATTS cannot handle 215-220 wtq, but it just shuts off. All this does is turns your SH into a heavier base...
true, perhaps i should have used better phrasing, as this is what i meant by sh trans.
as for clutches, they are rated by how much torque they can hold onto or "grab". Make sure you match your clutch to the torque output of your build as if you do not do that then you will end up with headache, bank break and a very dirty bell housing.... It is very easy to build your own clutch dyno to test which clutches hold best and what they are rated for. First get and old flywheel and spline. Bolt the flywheel into the floor(using a hilti gun and a garage floor is the easiest and most cost effective way fo doing so), then mount the clutch to the flywheel, insert the spline( you may need to weld a 1 inch nut onto the spline depending on what torque wrench you are goin to use). using a large torque wrench (like on that can measure up to 1000lbs) turn the spline, measure the amount of force it took to break out of the clutches grasp....that number is the maximum allowable torque the clutch can handle, or its rating. I can tell you that exedy stage one gives out at 201 lbs, the exedy stage 2 give out at 300 and the centerforce dual friction give out at 340. i have done other clutches also but these were the best ones so far.
by the way the stock clutch(which is a daiken, also the same people who make exedy....) gives out at 204, which is a few pounds more than the stage one organic exedy.
[QUOTE=Kronn 98SH;3107704]The SH trans can handle whatever the base trans can handle. ATTS cannot handle 215-220 wtq, but it just shuts off. All this does is turns your SH into a heavier base.
Oh I see Base FTW!! ha thanks!
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by the way the stock clutch(which is a daiken, also the same people who make exedy....) gives out at 204, which is a few pounds more than the stage one organic exedy.
So what would happen if I just put a stage 2 clutch in my car but Im on all stock since you say it should match the pwer output of the car? Nothing should happen to it right?
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you may find it hard to rev match, and possibly difficult to use as a daily driver. it will work fine but if your engine is stock then it is kinda over kill.
you may find it hard to rev match, and possibly difficult to use as a daily driver. it will work fine but if your engine is stock then it is kinda over kill.
SO I WAS LOOKING UP PARTS FOR MY MOTOR BUILD AND CAME ACROSS A DEAL FOR SOME LOW COMPRESSION 83MM PISTON (9:0:1) ARE THESE GOOD PISTONS TO GO WITH I FORGOT THE BRAND BUT AS FAR AS SIZE WISE R THEY? I WAS ALSO DOING SOME RESEARCH AND WANTED TO KNOW DOES YOUR SLEEVE SIZE DEPEND ON YOUR PISTON OR DOES YOUR PISTON SIZE DEPEND ON YOUR SLEEVES...I WAS LOOING AND SEEN A LOT OF PISTONS FOR STOC SLEEVES THATS Y IM ASKING....
So what would happen if I just put a stage 2 clutch in my car but Im on all stock since you say it should match the pwer output of the car? Nothing should happen to it right?
You'll be fine. A stage two is barely an upgrade from stock. I prefer a stage two over stock. Stock just seems to "soft" for me, but it's all preference
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SO I WAS LOOKING UP PARTS FOR MY MOTOR BUILD AND CAME ACROSS A DEAL FOR SOME LOW COMPRESSION 83MM PISTON (9:0:1) ARE THESE GOOD PISTONS TO GO WITH I FORGOT THE BRAND BUT AS FAR AS SIZE WISE R THEY? I WAS ALSO DOING SOME RESEARCH AND WANTED TO KNOW DOES YOUR SLEEVE SIZE DEPEND ON YOUR PISTON OR DOES YOUR PISTON SIZE DEPEND ON YOUR SLEEVES...I WAS LOOING AND SEEN A LOT OF PISTONS FOR STOC SLEEVES THATS Y IM ASKING....
Read some more about the engine. For the time it will take someone to answer this, you could have re-searched this and more
You'll be fine. A stage two is barely an upgrade from stock. I prefer a stage two over stock. Stock just seems to "soft" for me, but it's all preference
Read some more about the engine. For the time it will take someone to answer this, you could have re-searched this and more
SO I WAS LOOKING UP PARTS FOR MY MOTOR BUILD AND CAME ACROSS A DEAL FOR SOME LOW COMPRESSION 83MM PISTON (9:0:1) ARE THESE GOOD PISTONS TO GO WITH I FORGOT THE BRAND BUT AS FAR AS SIZE WISE R THEY? I WAS ALSO DOING SOME RESEARCH AND WANTED TO KNOW DOES YOUR SLEEVE SIZE DEPEND ON YOUR PISTON OR DOES YOUR PISTON SIZE DEPEND ON YOUR SLEEVES...I WAS LOOING AND SEEN A LOT OF PISTONS FOR STOC SLEEVES THATS Y IM ASKING....
And don't forget to turn off that retarded CAPSLOCK key.
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