whats up everyone. newbie here. well i just bought a 98 prelude auto base model. the engine is smoking and the transmission is slipping. i got this prelude at a dealer and got robbed. the car has been sitting for two months now and im finally ready to buy the new engine and trans. i will be buying the H22A with the auto tiptronic trans. then i ll propably sell it to buy a 5 speed. can anyone tell me what parts i need to swap from the h22a4 to the h22a. i have done a lot of research but i can never get a straight answer. is it better to use OEM or after market part like from advance auto parts or auto zone? will the H22a4 timing belt work for the h22a? thanks for any help guys.
the h22a and h22a4 is basically the same thing. only differences are is compression ratio and i believe they all come in obd-1 other than that they are the same, unless you get a type s h22.
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you don't have to swap anything over. the reason you would swap parts over would be to keep it emissions legal if you do any sort of emissions testing in your state.
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I just did a thread on this kinda thing, i went through all the parts i had to buy and then all the parts i had to swap over form the h22a4, by the way i used a jdm h22a with the lsd m2b4 tranny. I also included a rough price estimate on the parts and labour and whatnot, remember though that all th eprices i had written down are in canadien dollars.
yes please link the thread. I'm planning on swapping my sh h22 w/ a base h22 due to the fact that it takes some custom modification to get LSD which is all i want for this swap ....plus I've never done a swap and I'm really anxious to do so. To throw in there so I don't sound stupid, I do plan on rebuilding the motor during this swap and am having trouble finding the motor. My buddy is telling me about a k20. never heard this being done on a prelude, anyone hear other.
heres the link to the thread but i also bumped it for another person(not you guys this guy is just a douchbag, so pls excuse the comment on the bottom of the bump, its meant for someone specific), this is the link and if you have any questions feel free to ask, i have done this swap a few times now and each time they start and run perfect,(actually the engine that this link is too, i just got done doing the break in and the engine runs so well, all my freainds tell me my car purrs like a large kitten).
the h22a and h22a4 is basically the same thing. only differences are is compression ratio and i believe they all come in obd-1 other than that they are the same, unless you get a type s h22.
Also the h22a's are a closed deck block with the the crank postiton sensor in the dizzy, they have slighly higher compression and use an intake manifold that doesnt have the emissions gas recirculation system in it(egr system), also fRom each year up the engines got slightly better tunes to them to squeeze out the most power. The h22a4 are open deck block with 10.0 to 1 compression and use an obd2 egr system. The pulleys on the crank and balance shafts are diffrent and so are the exhuast manifolds(the stock h22a are slighlt shorter to fit into the 4th gen chassis. Also the ecus are different from the h22a to the h22a4's, the ecus are tuned on the pre 1997 to run a peak and hold inhjector where as the 97+ are tuned to run a saturation type injector, Because of this you cannot use the 4th gen intake manifold with out having to replace the injectors and then the knock sensor cuz the plug ins are different. All in all there are many differences in the engines, so many of them are small and get overlooked by many people doing the swaps.
Do you guys think I should get OEM parts from the honda dealer or from Avance auto parts? I'm kinda strap for cash now that I payed for the engine and transmission.
Honestly i would go with the genuine hond part, but if your strapped for cash and wanna buy the napa or autozone equivalent then feel fre to do so but i myself like to stick with the dealer parts or another aftermarket brand that i know works well(GREDDY, skunk2, apexi, mugen, tein,eibach, the like ect...), remeber it is you car and not anyone elses so put the parts that you feel comfortable putting in. But as an example one time when i was broke i needed new brakepads as my were gone completly and you could hear them scraping on the rotors, so i went out an dbought canadian tire nascar brand and they are the worst brake pads i have ever used and i regretted buying them but i had to as i had no money or brakes so.....circumstance do make a difference my freind; but you be the judge of that.
Ok so do i use part for the 98 prelude or 92-96 prelude because i hear people say that even if its a 97-01 h22a they use the 92-96 parts? for example the oil filter. is this true? thanks guys for all your input. this is my first engine swap and first JDM engine so work with me. thanks.
the oil filter is the same for both engines so you can use it. Which ecu are you going to use? This is the determining factor for many of the problems you may run into.
Ok so do i use part for the 98 prelude or 92-96 prelude because i hear people say that even if its a 97-01 h22a they use the 92-96 parts? for example the oil filter. is this true? thanks guys for all your input. this is my first engine swap and first JDM engine so work with me. thanks.
they use the 96 manual tensioner instead of the 97 auto tensioner
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well i was thinking of using the ecu that came on my 98 prelude because that's the only one i have. im not sure what the model number is on my ecu but i can check. the guy i bought the engine from said i only need to change the distributor and few other things since the JDM engine i got came out of a 97-01 prelude. From most of the threads i've read people change these parts.
crank pulley
balanceshaft pulley
complete intake manifold
exhaust manifold
ecu
wireharness
distributor
alternator
knock sensor
oil cooler
i got this list from your write up bouckaroo but its similar to all the other writes. so do i really have to change all the parts over. what timing belt do i use lilredlude or anyone. Someone that has done this swap please help.
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....plus I've never done a swap and I'm really anxious to do so. To throw in there so I don't sound stupid, I do plan on rebuilding the motor during this swap and am having trouble finding the motor. My buddy is telling me about a k20. never heard this being done on a prelude, anyone hear other.
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