Greddy Turbo kit 97-99 (exc.SH) Preludes modified for '00-'01 and Type SH?
I'm still frustrated that Greddy hasn't released a version of their Prelude turbo kit for '00-'01 and Type SH Preludes.
I got over it before but now I am thinking. What would need to be done to the kit to make it work on 00-01 and Type SH cars? It is the same drivetrain in all these cars with the exception of the SH being horsepower limited and the emissions programming being different after the '99 model year.
Stand alone ECU and electronics? hack the Greddy E-Manage and turbo ECU? Convert Type SH cars to a standard 5-speed transmission?
I'm interested in anything necessary to make this nice quality kit work on these "oddball" Preludes.
Ray makes a point. You can use the Greddy Kit; I just believe you'll lose the ATTS option no matter what ECU you choose.
Actually I read his post too fast and didn't notice that he had an SH. In his case I don't know what to do as the best option.
Maybe swap the ECU for a 99 (if possible).
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I've wondered about this too... 01 base 5sp... looked into the Greddy kit as well, but saw the 97-99 thing as well. This should be easily bypassed right? Does the ECU really need replacing for this kit?!
i had the kit on my car for a couple months but i took it off because plans were coming up. but they fell through and i had already sold the turbo kit. i had the greddy kit on my 00 sh. what you need to do is just tap into the oil pan and use that as your return line. i also bought a set of 440 injectors with the vafc hack. car worked pretty well but all i needed was the msd btm or either the j&s safeguard. i drove my car from ontario area here in so cali to frisco with no problems with the car. need any other info just let me know
Well I'm assuming that once you go to the trouble of rebuilding the engine for turbo, installing the kit and swapping out the ECU and transmission... there really isn't any going back.
....nor is there any taking it to a major city (re: emissions checks)
But at least there *is* a method that is tried and true and that works reliably, right?
Well I'm assuming that once you go to the trouble of rebuilding the engine for turbo, installing the kit and swapping out the ECU and transmission... there really isn't any going back.
....nor is there any taking it to a major city (re: emissions checks)
But at least there *is* a method that is tried and true and that works reliably, right?
ive wondered this....if i needed to go to the state ref, could i simply take off the turbo kit as well as the p28 and hondata? (these have a harness hookedup to the stock wiring)
by pluggin in the stock ecu would everything run stock since all the data programmin was done on the p28?
Greddy kit will work fine on an 00-01 SH. You just need to make sure it is the newer kit with the E-manage, and not the old Blue Box setup. Only trouble you may find is fitment of intake piping, and some little other odds and ends. Nothing that cant be worked out by a knowledgeable mechanic, or DIY'er.
Why not just get the kit but use a Hondata S100 or S200 (+ boost option) system?
thats what I would do
thats the most simplest solution and you will get the most out of the greddy kit...that is if you get a good tuner
no need to stress over it
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Are you saying that the electronics that come with the Greddy kit for 97-99 Base models will run on 00-01 cars? I understand about needing to modify some small items-- that's expected.
Lude4Life, you are correct regarding 1997-1999 model year Preludes. For those model years it is "legal". For 2000-2001 model year cars there is no CARB exemption because of the kit not being OK'd for OBDII emissions equipment which all '00-'01 Preludes posess.
It's established that the kit will run on all of these cars with some slight modification and engine management, however that means nothing if the CARB number does not apply to your car's 2000 model year even if it is 99% the same car as the 1999 model.
For 2000-2001 model year cars there is no CARB exemption because of the kit not being OK'd for OBDII emissions equipment which all '00-'01 Preludes posess.
Preludes since 1996, IIRC, have come with OBDII ECU's. That in turn, means, all 5G Preludes are OBDII.
The reason you can't use 97-99 with the 00-01 is because the ECU's themselves are different, though they both use ODBII. I don't know why though; some say it is a more aggressive fuel map, other say its different timing.
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This is news to me. So Greddy simply hasn't tuned their kit for the newer type ECU. Emissions have nothing to do with the matter. Interesting.
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Preludes since 1996, IIRC, have come with OBDII ECU's. That in turn, means, all 5G Preludes are OBDII.
The reason you can't use 97-99 with the 00-01 is because the ECU's themselves are different, though they both use ODBII. I don't know why though; some say it is a more aggressive fuel map, other say its different timing.
This is news to me. So Greddy simply hasn't tuned their kit for the newer type ECU. Emissions have nothing to do with the matter. Interesting.
Yeah, I couldn't tell ya the difference between the two ECU's, but they are not compatible. I think people run into the problems with the two when they do tranny swap's from SS --> 5 speed.
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